KITA

sflocal said:

Of course, the whiners and Apple-haters are out in full force yet again, with absolutely zero clue what they're talking about.

I bought a new MBP last October, and when I priced out the same configuration for the new one, the price was about the same for what I paid for back then.

That 4TB SSD drive which is faster than just about anything out there in the market is what's boosting the price so high.  Find another laptop with the EXACT SAME configuration and specs, and get back to me.

Haters will put out any kind of garbage propaganda to suit their agenda.

The 4 TB of SSD storage is rare, although people aren't exactly wrong about the price of the regular models.

For example:

2018 XPS 15 (4K version) - $3,299

• Intel Core i9-8950HK
• 32 GB DDR4-2666
• NVIDIA GTX 1050Ti 4 GB
• 2 TB PCIe SSD

2018 MacBook Pro 15 - $4,699

• Intel Core i9-8950HK
• 32 GB DDR4-2400
• AMD Radeon Pro 560X 4 GB
• 2 TB PCIe SSD

That's $1,400 more for the MBP with a much weaker GPU and slightly slower RAM.

corrections said:

Google priced its phones very low and couldn't sell them. It then tried to sell phones like Apple, and couldn't sell them. It's not easy. 

Google isn't the only manufacturer of Android smartphones. They've also have never had anything close to the scale and distribution levels that Apple has had.

It's clear though that Google isn't done with Pixel phones. More so, it looks like they're just getting started.

melgross said:

KITA said:

melgross said:

KITA said:

melgross said:

If true, not an impressive boost from last year, particularly since they say it’s got six cores. I hope this is off.

The A11 was known to throttle considerably under sustained load.

Geekbench 4 has pauses built in to avoid thermal throttling.

These numbers might actually be quite impressive if they're closer to the actual sustained performance of the A12.

No, it did not. All chips, particularly mobile chips, throttle under load, but the A11 throttles significantly less than any competing chip.

For the iPhone X using Metal API:

3DMark Sling Shot 3.1 Extreme Unlimited - Physics (CPU bound):

Peak: 2523
Sustained: 1895

3DMark Sling Shot 3.1 Extreme Unlimited - Graphics (GPU bound):

Peak: 4428
Sustained: 2884

The Snapdragon 835 throttled much less than the A11.

You should look at the reviews of phones on aRstechnica and anandtech, instead of choosing one spec, which is the one in which Apple doesn’t seem to care much about, which is physics. You need an overal test for this.

That is from Anandtech.

This is also from Anandtech:

The A11 is severely thermally constrained and is only able to achieve these scores when the devices are cold. Indeed as seen from the smaller score of the iPhone 8, the SoC isn’t able to sustain maximum performance for even one benchmark run before having to throttle.

- Andrei F.

melgross said:

If true, not an impressive boost from last year, particularly since they say it’s got six cores. I hope this is off.

The A11 was known to throttle considerably under sustained load.

Geekbench 4 has pauses built in to avoid thermal throttling.

These numbers might actually be quite impressive if they're closer to the actual sustained performance of the A12.

Motherboard codes:

iPhone11,2 - D321AP

iPhone X - D221AP
iPhone 8 Plus - D211AP
iPhone 8 - D201AP

This looks like the board to succeed the iPhone X.