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Developers claim that Apple's privacy-first features are 'atomic bomb' for revenue
Of course it used to be that the real and I would argue truly fair way to compete would be by having a quality saleable product. 80% off apps have no business being offered for download to begin with...
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Customers claim Apple partner Phobio is stiffing them on trade-in values
02 in the UK which is one of the largest telecoms and part of Telefonica once tried to stiff me like this. Unfortunately for them they played with the wrong person and I informed them that I had recorded and photographed the device, it’s serial number and the entire process of packaging it for shipment and told them that they were bare faced liars. I was supposed to get a very high trade in for effectively a device in mint condition and they alleged it was in very bad condition with dents and scratches and it was in the fourth category which was the lowest. I sent them photos, and not only did they immediately change their tune and give me the full amount, but they gave me I think £150 compensation. I reported them to trading standards, plastered my story and photos everywhere to inform others and made an official complaint with them personally. As if these greedy pigs don’t make enough through honest means.
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Apple kept iMessage off Android to lock users in to iOS
I’m delusional? Your comment proves that you’re actually projecting your own delusions onto me. As a single example of your ignorance, do you have any knowledge at all on the history of macOS and windows development? Clearly not, because if you did you would know that windows would not even exist if it hadn’t of been for Microsoft engaging in corporate espionage. They were developing apps for the soon to be released Macintosh at the time. Perhaps go and do some further research and educate yourself before making such easily disproven and embarrassing remarks.cloudguy said:
100% wrong and utterly delusional. Most Android innovations are developed either by Google's software division or Samsung's component division. Other than the Ax/Mx chips Apple doesn't do basic components. Never has. That sort of basic physics/chemistry/solid state electronics stuff has never been their cup of tea. Samsung meanwhile is currently the best in the world at it. And no, Apple has never done software innovation either. They are a hardware company, plus OS because that is hardware implemented as software. Apple's software deficiencies are what cost them the market share against Microsoft and Wintel, and it is what cost them the market share against Google and Android. If you believe otherwise, then you are no different from those sports fans who are convinced that A. their team is going to win the championship every year and B. that it is going to happen because their players and coaches aren't just better athletes than the competition but better people with better fans, traditions, institutions etc. In other words, total nonsense.Gaby said:The majority of hardware features that make it onto Android first are simply ideas Apple patented years ago but either haven’t perfected yet, or because they need them in such vast quantities that it’s easier for Android device makers to rush to market when by comparison they sell very few handsets! Beyond that they bring pointless fad features that Apple purposefully leaked as a distraction. Don’t get me wrong it’s not always the case and sometimes Apple may introduce features that genuinely debuted on other handsets, but 90% of the time that is exactly what happens.
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Apple kept iMessage off Android to lock users in to iOS
elijahg said:
In your opinion*cloudguy said:
This is 100% wrong.* Lots of people are. But - again - this is standard business practices and has been for decades. I don't see why anyone is making a big deal of it here.elijahg said:I very much doubt anyone is staying on iOS for iMessage. It’s good, but not markedly better than the alternatives really. Obviously it’s the whole package of iOS + ecosystem that makes iOS so sticky, but this in itself doesn’t prove anticompetitiveness. If it did, then every app Apple made would have to be on android too.
How do you know "Lots of people are"? Please do provide proof. I know at least 10 people with iPhones, and I am the only one who uses iMessage in preference to anything else, be that Viber, FB Messenger or Whatsapp. Most of my iPhone toting friends just default to Whatsapp for everything because its what everyone else has, even if we've previously chatted over iMessage.I was going to say the same thing. Especially among generation z like people my kid sisters ages all seem to default to WhatsApp and Insta etc. I use iMessage a lot along with signal but I must say if I were deciding to move to Android, iMessage wouldn’t even be a consideration I don’t think in deciding whether to bite the bullet or not. Certainly wouldn’t be a priority if it were considered at all. -
Apple kept iMessage off Android to lock users in to iOS
cloudguy said:
Android stole software and hardware from Apple?Beats said:This reminds me of when people argue and they bring irrelevant points into the conversation.
”You never paid me back my $20.... oh and your diet is horrible!!”
I always thought Apple should charge $1 a month for iMessage and FaceTime on android.
And this logic that Apple has to lend a helping hand to knockoffs who already stole software and hardware from Apple is ridiculous. I don’t know why @"avon b7" wants iKnockoffs to be EVEN MORE similar. How much more similar should knockoff iPhones be? At that point “customer choice” is an illusion. It’s already an illusion on Android when 99% of the device are identical across the board. I hate that people scream “anti-competitive!” When a company invents or develops projects but doesn’t share them.
What next? Nintendo expected to port their library of games to Xbox? Walmart expected to build stores for the competition? Porn allowed on YouTube? Netflix produced shows on Hulu?
because “anti-competitive!!”
How when:
1. iOS uses Objective C and Swift. Android uses Java (sorta), Kotlin and soon Rust
2. Apple uses the Ax. Android uses Qualcomm, MediaTek and Samsung Exynos
3. Most - or actually pretty much all - hardware features debut on Android years before they get to iOS. The only exception is iOS getting 64 bit CPUs and fingerprint scanners first.
Also, 99% of Android devices aren't identical across the board. And your comparisons to iMessage not being on Android make no sense either, as Apple Music has been on Android for years and Apple TV+ is on its way there. So yeah, 100% of the content in your post is wrong. You and I agree here, but your zeal to trash Android has utterly poisoned your thinking. I guess because your sincere and utter desire for Apple to have a mobile monopoly prevents you from making accurate arguments as to why they aren't one.The majority of hardware features that make it onto Android first are simply ideas Apple patented years ago but either haven’t perfected yet, or because they need them in such vast quantities that it’s easier for Android device makers to rush to market when by comparison they sell very few handsets! Beyond that they bring pointless fad features that Apple purposefully leaked as a distraction. Don’t get me wrong it’s not always the case and sometimes Apple may introduce features that genuinely debuted on other handsets, but 90% of the time that is exactly what happens.
