morgle

tmay said:

morgle said:

StrangeDays said:

morgle said:

iPhone IS the smartphone. This category didn't exist before iPhone.

One-post-moron see yourself out.>>>

False.

SAUCE: The first commercially available device that could be properly referred to as a "smartphone" began as a prototype called "Angler" developed by Frank Canova in 1992 while at IBM and demonstrated in November of that year at the COMDEX computer industry trade show.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smartphone

477 posts does not make you righteous

I assumed he meant the category of modern smartphone was defined by the iPhone and its mass marketed feature set. It wasn’t the first smartphone, or the first touch screen, but it was the first smartphone that mattered. 

Can't blame you for making a common mistake. But you'd still be wrong. BlackBerry demonstrated that such a device could be manufactured and commercially successful. They were extremely popular, and powerful at the time.

Is it not enough to satisfy you that your device is the most powerful? Must it also be of pure lineage from the first device as well? 

iPhone was a pioneer product, but it rested the success of its many features on the successes and failures of older products and the pioneering research and development of many other scientists from many other companies and the legal acquisition of the patents for its component pieces, of which all preceding "smartphone" devices, including the blackberry, were crucial contributors.

Also, you have to give Alexander Graham Bell some credit for the telephone. The first telephone that mattered, that is. No avoiding that. Apple had nothing to do with it .

Apple is not a self-contained universe. It lacks the resources to ever accomplish that. Amazon and Google, on the other hand, might be able. I'm excited to see.

There are plenty of phones in the lineage prior to the release of the iPhone, but as you are quite aware, the death of physical keyboards can trace its demise directly to the release of the iPhone. The iPhone was the disruption in the then current market. This isn't in dispute.

I wasn't aware that Blackberry still made phones with physical keyboards, until today.

These must sell in the thousands, and you must be so proud.

Point is Blackberry preceded the iPhone as a commercially successful smartphone

StrangeDays said:

morgle said:

iPhone IS the smartphone. This category didn't exist before iPhone.

One-post-moron see yourself out.>>>

False.

SAUCE: The first commercially available device that could be properly referred to as a "smartphone" began as a prototype called "Angler" developed by Frank Canova in 1992 while at IBM and demonstrated in November of that year at the COMDEX computer industry trade show.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smartphone

477 posts does not make you righteous

I assumed he meant the category of modern smartphone was defined by the iPhone and its mass marketed feature set. It wasn’t the first smartphone, or the first touch screen, but it was the first smartphone that mattered. 

Can't blame you for making a common mistake. But you'd still be wrong. BlackBerry demonstrated that such a device could be manufactured and commercially successful. They were extremely popular, and powerful at the time.

Is it not enough to satisfy you that your device is the most powerful? Must it also be of pure lineage from the first device as well? 

iPhone was a pioneer product, but it rested the success of its many features on the successes and failures of older products and the pioneering research and development of many other scientists from many other companies and the legal acquisition of the patents for its component pieces, of which all preceding "smartphone" devices, including the blackberry, were crucial contributors.

Also, you have to give Alexander Graham Bell some credit for the telephone. The first telephone that mattered, that is. No avoiding that. Apple had nothing to do with it .

Apple is not a self-contained universe. It lacks the resources to ever accomplish that. Amazon and Google, on the other hand, might be able. I'm excited to see.

iPhone IS the smartphone. This category didn't exist before iPhone.

One-post-moron see yourself out.>>>

False.

SAUCE: The first commercially available device that could be properly referred to as a "smartphone" began as a prototype called "Angler" developed by Frank Canova in 1992 while at IBM and demonstrated in November of that year at the COMDEX computer industry trade show.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smartphone

477 posts does not make you righteous

Google is an AI technology company. The pixel is a more interesting phone because of its experimental features and AI integration. I am more interested in Google as a company than Apple, and that's my preference. iOS has been around for ages now and it's still pretty much the same. I've never found it to be as user friendly as windows and Android UI. Plus Apple's interest in progressing their AI doesn't seem incredibly pronounced. I haven't heard a lot of good feedback about Siri, and while Assistant is flawed it does work very well for my purposes.

The concern for user data privacy is strange to me. Folks don't want privacy, they want secrecy, anonymity. Apple does farm its user data, only "anonymously". Every time you buy a monster energy, a demon bird flies off to tell Coke, thereby harvesting your data anonymously. What's so scary about that?

Google seeks to provide a personalized user experience by tracking personal user data and using it to simplify the user interface. Searching personal archives of emails and photos is one of my favorite features. Searching information is what Google does all day every day. Machine learning and algorithms. A Google user typically wants access to as much information as they can get their hands on, as fast and conveniently as possible. Apple is still the oldschool tech model, hardware and software. I refuse to waste a moment of time with fortnite, but if that was my tea iPhone would be my cup.

To summarize, Apple is the Perfect Machine, while Google is the New Machine. Fear them both!