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  • Samsung's 'Infinity Flex Display' demo shows future of foldable smartphones

    avon b7 said:
    tmay said:
    avon b7 said:
    Soli said:
    mac_128 said:
    Ah the strawman arguments begin.

     But if someone actually made that argument, yours is a very clever retort. ;-)
    Your "I've seen it on TV so it must make sense" argument is the straw man. That's why your comment is being made fun of. If you had a real argument as to how the state-of-the-art for 2018 will allow for a display, touch element and protective covering (and potentially a digitizer) to last well past typical usage without showing any signs of wear-and-tear, and how this is filling a market void that wasn't possible before now you would've mentioned it—you certainly wouldn't have said it works perfectly fine on Westworld.

    We see this same ol' shit from the same people who get all goggly eyed at some new technology without weighing its pros and cons, or its long development cycle.. TV panels are a classic example of this happening over and over and over again.

    Also, consider how long it took after OLED was invented, and then how long after OLED panels were being sold, and then how long before OLED panels were being mass marketed (mostly via Samsung since they had such a major investment in it) in smartphones before Apple jumped into the fray in 2017.

    Do you understand why they waited that long to add it to their flagship device? Do you understand why the Apple Watch had OLED out of the gate with its UI designed around maximizing blacks? Do you understand why Apple's OLED displays, even though sourced from Samsung, are much better than the average OLED display on a smartphone?

    If you do understand all that then I can't fathom why you're jumping in head first before of a very, very unfinished demo of skunkswork project that Samsung just had to do a "me too" release because some unknown company called Royole announced something called FlexPai.

    tl;dr: Slow your roll fold, Mac.
    Well, 2018 is drawing to a close but for 2019, Huawei has already gone on record as saying they will have a folding screen shipping on one of its phones.

    Samsung probably wanted to get the announcement and demo out to say 'whatever appears in the coming months, don't forget we will also have a folding option too'.

    Apple did something similar with the HomePod. 

    At this point, what is important is the message, not the product.
    You appear unaware that Samsung Electronics is in fact a world leader in mobile screen technology, and Huawei does not design, engineer, or manufacturer screens, Huawei going on record that they will have a folding screen shipping on one of its phones is completely dependent on availability of a screen from a manufacturer like Samsung.

    You might want cool the rhetoric in this case, as you appear a fool.

    What does that have to do with anything?

    Let me spell it out for you: nothing.

    We already know that Huawe's proposal will not involve Samsung. Rumours point to a Chinese vendor.

    The whole real point is this:

    Samsung will announce the S10 around MWC.

    If the demoed screen were anywhere near that release frame, Samsung wouldn't have demoed it at all. They would have held it back for higher impact on release. There will be no major flagships released before the S10. There is no threat of any major player one upping them before the S10.

    So why did they demo it?

    They probably suspect a major player could get a foldable phone out before them. With Huawei going on record as saying their foldable screen phone will ship next year, the best option was to reveal what they have and then probably begin 'teasing' the product next year.

    Now, your stating-the-obvious claim that Huawei doesn't make it's own screens has no bearing on ANYTHING. 

    I really doubt Samsung would let a major competitor debut its folding screen technology. LOL. So, as Huawei doesn't make its own screens (thank you for pointing out what we all know!) and they say they will ship a phone with a folding screen in 2019 it will have to be from a different vendor - which is what rumours have pointed to from the start.

    And you speak of fools!?

    And don't forget. Everything I stated about Samsung at the top of the thread is applicable to Huawei too (and LG, Sony and Apple) but the industry being like it is, whoever brings a workable and compelling solution to market first, will score very high in mindset.




    Samsung announced it at their developer conference of which the majority are software developers. It's the perfect place to showcase the technology and give a preview of what to expect in the coming months. What makes it even more conclusive is the fact that Google came out and officially supported the new form factor from the OS level. This release was to showcase that they have a working prototype and a close-to-market product in their pipeline to get developer support and interest. When the actual phone launchs, Samsung would want third party software that supports it at launch. To get that support you need time. Giving the developers around 6 months time period before the official launch (most likely at MWC 2019) would be a wise business decision. 

    Your statement about Huawei launching a foldable phone next year rests on the fact that Samsung will most likely be the supplier of said screens. I'm pretty sure Samsung has sent samples of the foldable screens to their customers to adopt to make the ecosystem of foldable phones expand to make its viable sector. Now why would Samsung give out these screens to their competitors? Your forgetting that Samsung is both a display maker and a mobile phone maker, at the same time. They currently ship their OLED screens to their competitors as their mobile division is using it at the same time.  Its a win-win scenario for them. 
    tmay
  • Samsung's 'Infinity Flex Display' demo shows future of foldable smartphones

    bluefire1 said:
    They’ve created an option that no one asked for or particularly wants. 
    I would disagree. The current trend of people wanting more screen real estate on their phones without having to sacrifice portability is clearly evident in the marketplace.  
    This trend was first started by Samsung themselves with the introducition of the first Galaxy Note 1. Many people laughed at it for having a gigantic screen and thick bezels and even a pen. Fast forward to 2018, its one of their best selling phones. Now, even competitors are adopting the same strategy of having large screens on their phones. The "phablet" sized screens are now the norm. 


    muthuk_vanalingam