jason54

StrangeDays said:

jason54 said:

Mike Wuerthele said:

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jason54 said:

Yeah, um...the knock on the iMac Pro was never that it was too expensive in general.  It was that it was too expensive for a machine that you cannot upgrade.  You mention a comparatively priced PC that you could build yourself as inferior but that is not an apples to apples comparison (no pun intended) as that PC will most likely last you for 5-7 years because it’s upgradable. I highly doubt that iMac pro will have that same utility in a similar timeframe.  The entire crux of your “review” is based on the idea that all of these straw men were arguing that it wasn’t worth the price because of its performance?  Based on their desire to use for Facebook, seriously???

This may have been your knock, which is fine, but it wasn't the general consensus. This general concept that you speak of is addressed twice in the piece.

Might be worth a re-read. Or a first read.

Also related? The effectively five year old 6,1 Mac Pro has the same utility now as it did the day it was released. And, it was similarly upgradeable with slotted RAM and a socketed processor -- or not upgradeable depending on the viewpoint.

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“Socketed processor entombed behind a glued-on screen.”  Yeah, I read that the first time, still there the second time, sounds as upgradable as the hyothetical PC mentioned that was built “with similar but not identical components” to me.  How much glue and glass do I need to get through to upgrade the graphics card?  I will now rush out to buy one at the bargain price of $5K.  

And I’ll give you that maybe it wasn’t the only part of the general consensus on the iMac Pro (the others being “WTF” and “Where is/Is this the new Mac Pro?” among other things) but you have to admit, upgradability is a key consideration when considering the “value” of a new computer.  Just because Apple optimized it through software updates (for Apples software), and its performance has improved (compared to the 5K iMac apparently) doesn’t justify the value of a computer whose upgrade path involves chucking it out the window and buying another one in a few years.   

Again, upgradability is absolutely not a cornern for pros and enterprise. I’ve worked for household brands in retail, banking and energy, and we never, ever upgrade user machines. Replaced. Tons of users go with notebooks anyway so there is no possible upgrade path. I suspect you’re confusing your DIY/gamer/personal use to being in the pro or enterprise market. 

And only a complete idiot would throw away Macs they are replacing, considering how well they hold their value. 

And we won’t even get into the documented lower TCO of Macs.

StrangeDays said:

jason54 said:

Mike Wuerthele said:

jason54 said:

Yeah, um...the knock on the iMac Pro was never that it was too expensive in general.  It was that it was too