weirdosmurf

TextBladeDenied said:

weirdosmurf said:

 If you want to be insanely generous and give me my money back whilst still delivering my multiple TextBlades and free gift when they’re ready (without needing me to pay a second time),

They should refund everyone, absorb any costs related to exchange rates and credit card fees, notify people when the product is actually ready to ship so people can activate their orders again, and then ship the product. Its very simple. It is the only ethical course of action.

I appreciate your view, I really do, but I got in early and was promised a free gift - I want my gift and I can afford a couple hundred bucks...

(I actually think the “free gift for early orderers” is pissing a lot of people off... they got in early but now don’t know if getting out will deprive them of something sufficiently valuable that they’d be kicking themselves once they discover what it is... after 4 years, it might actually help if Waytools drew a line in the sand (end of the early adopter bonus...) and announced what the early-adopter bonus is so people can make an informed decision... I don’t imagine Waytools initially figured they’d be holding off on it for 4+ years...)

I do not want a refund (unless there’s no choice i.e. I end up being a creditor after a bankruptcy or something equally unfortunate...). I want my products. I also want my free gift (I just like presents... ). I would consider a refund without my request/consent to be “transactional rape”...

WayTools_Support said:

Wow, it’s hard to imagine a psychiatrist speaking with such belittling taunts. 

I’m guessing you’ll understand how many of your customers find it hard to imagine how a developer can set customer expectations so many times and blast right past them; how that developer can communicate so poorly with the very people who were early supporters of, and who (in my case) continue to want to see their orders fulfilled...

It’s pretty hard to imagine how a competent professional developer can have gotten themselves in such a 4yr tangle...

Perhaps rather than imagining my psychiatric practice, you might stick to answering the many unanswered questions in this thread (a thread about your product btw...) you’ve continued to avoid and pivot from... your unwillingness to address them is what leads people to suspicions (having nothing else to fill the void). If the reason you don’t want to give clear answers is because you are embarrassed and a bit burned by failures along the way, then I can assure you, people can forgive plenty; provided you are up front with them. Ducking, weaving, going silent and dodging, being less than forthcoming, these are what harden people’s opinions against you...

Smurf...

dabigkahuna said:

That was a lot of words that didn’t disprove what I said. You just assume why I decide. You are not qualified to read minds. My choice vs your assumptions. But I suspect you’ll keep doing it. 

(...and there you go, making my point... [facepalm])

I am actually qualified to make psychological and psychiatric assessments however. “Reading minds” is a lot closer to my area of qualification than you realise, that’s, in a manner of speaking, precisely what I do darlin’... you, my dear are an open book [yawn]... a lay person may assume in this regard. I, on the other hand assess... more than happy for you to get a second psychiatric opinion, in fact I encourage it...

(...that was probably not the best phrase/rationale to have used... especially since you are already aware of my profession... you did give me a chortle though... )

dabigkahuna said:

Thing is, only I decide what I respond to...

Oh, goodness gracious, despite my well intentioned call to drop shenanigans earlier, I’ll bite...

dbk, that isn’t even remotely true, you have demonstrated on forum after forum after forum that you have little to no impulse control and you cannot help but act out a perceived need to retaliate to anything and everything... You do not decide what you respond to (that statement is true for most people but you demonstrably fail to fit in to that category...); you are one of the people most easily manipulated in to retaliation that I have ever come across (over the age of 7...). A “decision” implies choice and control (from a technical standpoint, it’s the hypothalamic-pituitary axis involving cortisol’s effects on decision making and risk assessment if anyone’s academically minded and likes a little neuroscience/endocrinology...). Based on historical evidence, I find it highly doubtful you have enough self control to not retort when a choice presents itself (and you’d likely rationalise “there’s no real choice...”; nonsense...); I beg you, by all that is sane in this universe to please, please prove me wrong and stop escalating to DEFCON-1-combat-mode... 

No need to come up with a “but other parties did something first...” or any other “whataboutism...”; that would be a reflex, uncontrolled response. Demonstrate some self-control and maybe “decide” not to retaliate - it serves no useful purpose and simply lowers the tone (and tangentially pivots off topic... again...)

[facepalm...]

dabigkahuna said:

TextBladeDenied said:

they stated a ship date or time frame, and did not qualify it

it pre-dates Waytools hiring of Kahuna

Don't have to qualify it. Even when you order something that has been in GR for years, you don't always get it when estimated. Make it about something new and anyone who thinks it is some sort of assurance hasn't lived in the real world much.

But let's play your game about not qualifying it. So it didn't have to be April 2015. After all, as you say, they didn't "qualify it".

Now, I don't think they meant that either, but I'm just playing your game.

But you are right about one thing - it predates WayTools hiring me - mostly because I have yet to be hired!

...actually, how about we stop playing games... game-playing serves no-one well.

...and anyone saying anything to the effect of “I’ll stop, but they have to stop playing first...” is being pretty childish. Childishness (from me or anyone else) does nothing but demonstrate your childishness.

(As always, whatever one writes or what one chooses to respond to says everything about oneself and not really very much about anyone else - their posts reveal everything about them; have a bit of faith that reasonable people can see for themselves when someone is being silly... there’s no need to bludgeon the internet over the head with a pissing contest that just ends up spreading urine around on the rest of us - I am as guilty of this as anyone, but I’m always willing to at least try and not be a dick whenever I realise I’m being one... anyone who feels this is targeted at them is probably suffering a bit of a guilty conscience... )