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Lawsuit over refurbished Apple service replacements heading to trial in August
I purchased a new iPhone that was dead after 24 hours. When I went to the Apple Store they wanted to replace it with a refurbished one instead of a new one. You think that after forking out $2K where I’m at, I am somehow entitled for wanting a new replacement!????
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No, Apple's new Mac Pro isn't overpriced
Very mature response dude.DuhSesame said:
...FrancescoB said:
In response to your last paragraph:DuhSesame said:
Yeah, guilt trip. The whole world is running by...FrancescoB said:It's somewhat amusing to see the Apple fans defend Apple's pricing - note I am huge fan and have all their gear. But if we can't even get ourselves to admit this stuff then well, nothing will ever change. It took a lot to get Apple to admit its mistakes with the MacBook Pro rectified with the new ones re Keyboard, Escape key, good GPU now etc.
This new Mac Pro when specced out on the high end is not over priced - it's comparable or even lower cost compared to HP or DELL in this space.
Where the Mac Pro IS over priced is on the low end. Given this is a "Pro" device, there is no reason for the low end machine with a 256GB SSD, Radeon 580 Pro to even EXIST! Priced at $5999.
There once was a time when you could get a fully loaded Quad G5 for way less. Anyway, I hope Apple releases a Mac Pro tower, perhaps with only 3 slots to justify (for them) a lower cost so that other folks can get in - folks that don't necessarily need the power but want the "hard core" performance.
They don't take the platform as a whole into account and assume whatever they saw it's true.
Sure you can find faster and cheaper lower-end products and call yourself a winner. Even a teenager could do that math. So? Every socket they've added on the board, or the possibility of the processor was free all of the sudden?
They just don't think anything further than what they could afford. More power to them (I like cheap stuff too), but it's foolish to ask a premium tool (and not primarily
for personal use) to be cheaper.
This is where your argument fails - the quality of the Apple gear is no better or worse. I've had to take my AirPods, Apple Watch and two MacBook Pro (both with butterfly keyboards) back. Not to mention the countless software issues (bugs) over the last couple of years. Similar priced and specced machines sold by Dell or Microsoft have comparable quality. Fortunately my new MacBook Pro 16 hasn't had any issues these past three weeks.
Learn to argue.
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No, Apple's new Mac Pro isn't overpriced
In response to your last paragraph:DuhSesame said:
Yeah, guilt trip. The whole world is running by...FrancescoB said:It's somewhat amusing to see the Apple fans defend Apple's pricing - note I am huge fan and have all their gear. But if we can't even get ourselves to admit this stuff then well, nothing will ever change. It took a lot to get Apple to admit its mistakes with the MacBook Pro rectified with the new ones re Keyboard, Escape key, good GPU now etc.
This new Mac Pro when specced out on the high end is not over priced - it's comparable or even lower cost compared to HP or DELL in this space.
Where the Mac Pro IS over priced is on the low end. Given this is a "Pro" device, there is no reason for the low end machine with a 256GB SSD, Radeon 580 Pro to even EXIST! Priced at $5999.
There once was a time when you could get a fully loaded Quad G5 for way less. Anyway, I hope Apple releases a Mac Pro tower, perhaps with only 3 slots to justify (for them) a lower cost so that other folks can get in - folks that don't necessarily need the power but want the "hard core" performance.
They don't take the platform as a whole into account and assume whatever they saw it's true.
Sure you can find faster and cheaper lower-end products and call yourself a winner. Even a teenager could do that math. So? Every socket they've added on the board, or the possibility of the processor was free all of the sudden?
They just don't think anything further than what they could afford. More power to them (I like cheap stuff too), but it's foolish to ask a premium tool (and not primarily
for personal use) to be cheaper.
This is where your argument fails - the quality of the Apple gear is no better or worse. I've had to take my AirPods, Apple Watch and two MacBook Pro (both with butterfly keyboards) back. Not to mention the countless software issues (bugs) over the last couple of years. Similar priced and specced machines sold by Dell or Microsoft have comparable quality. Fortunately my new MacBook Pro 16 hasn't had any issues these past three weeks. -
No, Apple's new Mac Pro isn't overpriced
It's somewhat amusing to see the Apple fans defend Apple's pricing - note I am huge fan and have all their gear. But if we can't even get ourselves to admit this stuff then well, nothing will ever change. It took a lot to get Apple to admit its mistakes with the MacBook Pro rectified with the new ones re Keyboard, Escape key, good GPU now etc.
This new Mac Pro when specced out on the high end is not over priced - it's comparable or even lower cost compared to HP or DELL in this space.
Where the Mac Pro IS over priced is on the low end. Given this is a "Pro" device, there is no reason for the low end machine with a 256GB SSD, Radeon 580 Pro to even EXIST! Priced at $5999.
There once was a time when you could get a fully loaded Quad G5 for way less. Anyway, I hope Apple releases a Mac Pro tower, perhaps with only 3 slots to justify (for them) a lower cost so that other folks can get in - folks that don't necessarily need the power but want the "hard core" performance.
