CloudTalkin

thedba said:

CloudTalkin said:

thedba said:

CloudTalkin said:

thedba said:

AppleInsider said:

In terms of shipment numbers, Samsung is thought to be producing 80 million units of the display for the new iPhone, with between 120 million and 130 million total OLED panels anticipated to ship to Apple in 2021. For LG, it is apparently aiming for 30 million units for the "iPhone 13," and a total of 50 million overall for the year.

Those numbers are just mind blowing. 
This is one reason why Apple could not put Pro motion in the iPhone 12 Pro. The sheer numbers required by Apple to put into their flagship devices is just staggering.
Before someone says "Yeah, but Samsung sells more phones",  I don't think they sell as many brand new flagship devices as Apple.

The numbers are impressive.  Apple sells a lot of phones.  The volume of phones is not a reason that Apple didn't put high refresh panels in the 12 Pro.  Samsung had the capability to provide the panels for the 12 Pro/Max.  Apple chose not to put the panel in the 12's.  Whatever their reasoning, it wasn't due to lack of capacity.  

Why would anyone mention Samsung selling more phones?  It would be an irrelevant factoid.  Samsung Display makes panels, not phones.  Don't let petty fanboyism color your commentary.

Any links as to why Apple chose not to include pro motion into the iPhone 12? 

As for the irrelevant factoid comment, I disagree when sites like the Verge, amongst many, tell us about the beautiful displays that Samsung (and some others) put on their phones/tablets while Apple is still using boring LCD or more recently boring 60Hz OLED panels.
Fact remains, if Apple cannot secure tens of millions of certain component for their new iPhones, then that technology is simply not going in and will have to wait for at least a year. 

There may be other reasons too and do share if you have them.

I have no idea why Apple didn't put LTPO panels in the 12 series, but it wasn't due to an inability to secure panels.  Samsung had the capacity.  Pure supposition: Samsung could have required too high of a minimum order guarantee for the LTPO panels.  Apple has already had to pay Samsung twice for missing order minimums on the regular panels.  Starting fresh on the 13 series might make the minimums more palatable.  Who knows.  

You're conflating sites reporting about Samsung phones with info about Samsung panels.  Panels looking good and panel manufacturing are not the same thing.  SDI makes the panels for Samsung and Apple.  Whether Samsung Electronics sells more phones is irrelevant with regards to the panel manufacturing discussed in the article.  Again, it's simply unnecessary fanboyism.

Asking questions isn’t fanboyism. 

Here’s a link to one YouTuber’s analysis stating amongst several possible reasons, supply (others being price, battery life, etc.)
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=pb-CGAkRrkM
Rene Ritchie also talked about it in one of his videos.

You say you don’t know but then state with certainty that Samsung Display had the capacity. 

So where’s your link asserting that SDI had the capacity but Apple didn’t want to for other reasons?

thedba said:

CloudTalkin said:

thedba said:

AppleInsider said:

In terms of shipment numbers, Samsung is thought to be producing 80 million units of the display for the new iPhone, with between 120 million and 130 million total OLED panels anticipated to ship to Apple in 2021. For LG, it is apparently aiming for 30 million units for the "iPhone 13," and a total of 50 million overall for the year.

Those numbers are just mind blowing. 
This is one reason why Apple could not put Pro motion in the iPhone 12 Pro. The sheer numbers required by Apple to put into their flagship devices is just staggering.
Before someone says "Yeah, but Samsung sells more phones",  I don't think they sell as many brand new flagship devices as Apple.

The numbers are impressive.  Apple sells a lot of phones.  The volume of phones is not a reason that Apple didn't put high refresh panels in the 12 Pro.  Samsung had the capability to provide the panels for the 12 Pro/Max.  Apple chose not to put the panel in the 12's.  Whatever their reasoning, it wasn't due to lack of capacity.  

Why would anyone mention Samsung selling more phones?  It would be an irrelevant factoid.  Samsung Display makes panels, not phones.  Don't let petty fanboyism color your commentary.

Any links as to why Apple chose not to include pro motion into the iPhone 12? 

As for the irrelevant factoid comment, I disagree when sites like the Verge, amongst many, tell us about the beautiful displays that Samsung (and some others) put on their phones/tablets while Apple is still using boring LCD or more recently boring 60Hz OLED panels.
Fact remains, if Apple cannot secure tens of millions of certain component for their new iPhones, then that technology is simply not going in and will have to wait for at least a year. 

There may be other reasons too and do share if you have them.

thedba said:

AppleInsider said:

In terms of shipment numbers, Samsung is thought to be producing 80 million units of the display for the new iPhone, with between 120 million and 130 million total OLED panels anticipated to ship to Apple in 2021. For LG, it is apparently aiming for 30 million units for the "iPhone 13," and a total of 50 million overall for the year.

Those numbers are just mind blowing. 
This is one reason why Apple could not put Pro motion in the iPhone 12 Pro. The sheer numbers required by Apple to put into their flagship devices is just staggering.
Before someone says "Yeah, but Samsung sells more phones",  I don't think they sell as many brand new flagship devices as Apple.

dysamoria said:

CloudTalkin said:

entropys said:

ednl said:

Hey AppleInsider, stop autoplayng videos! And stop popping it up in other places on the page! And fix the placement of the closing button which doesn't work! (on iPad). Wtf.

Yes, it is annoying enough on other websites, but I expect more from an Apple related website. 

In ios/ipadOS/macOS 15 I would love a feature that not only prevents autoplay, but also dos attacks websites that do it.

Why would you expect more from an Apple related website?  It's not like Apple pays them to operate the site, thus negating the need to generate revenue through ads... ya know... to run the site and pay the staff.  If enough members donated, there wouldn't be a need for so many ads.  That goes for any website.  We want free sites but complain about how we get to have free sites.  

Ads are the commerce of the internet.  I don't like them either, but I do understand their necessity.  Heck, Apple understands their necessity too.  It's why Apple has increased it's ads in iOS and are actively courting advertisers to use their ad network.  Apple wants that ad money too.  They just market a different message to their audience.  Pay attention to the actions, not the words.

Wow. Apple does not “need” ad revenue. It’s greed. Neither does Amazon need to sell ad spaces on their dogdamned store. That’s greed. Putting ads on every damned space isn’t by necessity. It’s greed.

Advertising has DRIVEN us to ad blocking. As soon as any entity complains about ad blocking, the first phrase that comes to mind is “self-inflicted injury”. If advertising weren’t so obnoxious (in every possible way), we would be fine with them. But it IS obnoxious. It’s the primary content of the web at this point.

It started innocently enough with small & static graphics on the top, bottom, or side of pages, but it became a process of ever-escalating warfare against our eyes, our ears, our time, and our bandwidth. I have zero tolerance for advertising at this point. It’s not me; it’s them. No, punishing me with ads won’t encourage me to subscribe to your site... and then we have places that “let us pay” to still see ads, like Hulu. GTFOH. Greed.

Nope the hell right out of here with the pity party for “the necessity for advertising”.

entropys said:

ednl said:

Hey AppleInsider, stop autoplayng videos! And stop popping it up in other places on the page! And fix the placement of the closing button which doesn't work! (on iPad). Wtf.

Yes, it is annoying enough on other websites, but I expect more from an Apple related website. 

In ios/ipadOS/macOS 15 I would love a feature that not only prevents autoplay, but also dos attacks websites that do it.