frankie

bells said:

brian davis said:

Bernie Sander's opinion is pretty much idiotic when his solution is to increase corporate tax rates to 50%.    You want to see companies keep their money over seas... vote Bernie because nobody will ever want to bring their money home with his tax plans to screw over businesses.  

Get rid of Free Trade Agreements and tax imports and they will have no choice but to bring the money home. 



With that said, while I admire Bernie, the problem is really with the government. The government's job is to pass laws. If governments don't like a practice, pass a law to change it. 

Apple has had its tax practices in place for twenty years. While it is clear the practice is to avoid paying taxes, it isn't illegal. 

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rotateleftbyte said:

We all know how ineffective that other great wall (the Berlin one) was for almost 30 years. You won't keep the people from getting over, under or through it if they are determined enough.

Berlin wall = keep people and citizens locked in, because commie paradises are so wonderful, that people must be forced to live in them, with little chance of escape.

Trump wall = keep illegal intruders and criminals out, protecting the citizens of your own nation

And the Berlin wall was actually extremely effective, for many decades. A few people here and there managed to get across, but many more probably died trying and the wall did work.

SpamSandwich said:

frac said:

Well in an age when financially backed lobbying is the norm, all these candidates have done is just lay out their open envelope-invitations.

What do you mean "financially backed lobbying"? All lobbying is done in order to receive preferential treatment. All of it. And none of it is free. The alternative to lobbying is getting railroaded by a competitor or special interest whose interests conflict with your own. Look at what has happened to the technology sector in the absence of concerted lobbying efforts. It's all been bad.

cmon man said:

foggyhill said:

Do really believe that this is the reason why they do this in China... Come on. Trump will make believe ANYTHING and his overgrown baby crowd just gobble it up like sweet pablum..

Also, what are the fracking other consequences of that lower taxes, you know, less revenue... Well, Trumpie doesn't give a shit about that; more jobs (sic) will take care of that... Were have we heard that before? Hmmmm.

It's good ol' trickle down, just applied to company; cut taxes and you'll see, the treasury will eventually make money from the bubbling investments... Yup. It's the 1980s all over again.

Were do we take this money we cut back... Hell, lets borrow it. Because we'll "obviously" be able to make up that X% borrowed + Inflation + whatever extra money from investment in the future... Easy peasy,  Never worked before, but hey, it will work now. Just keep watching the little shells as we move them around...

So, more top1% and corporate welfare with no real garantee of it will work.
Many companies right now are paying next to no taxes, how the hell will that make a difference.
And what about the fact it would take several decades for this to actually work in a meaningful way (even if those magnanimous companies (sic)) would actually answer those largesses with actual investments while revenues from taxation is down for everyone for all that time.. No answer... Trust us.... Yeahhhhhh

So, Trickle dee, trickle dumb.... Same crap as before.

Nice politically-charged rant, but I didn't see you offer even one solution. I just gave you the 'incentive' as to why companies would come back (while correcting the article's premise). What solution did you provide? ... because I didn't see one. Here's the reality. The tax plan that Donald Trump is putting in place is FAR MORE ADVANTAGEOUS to companies than Bernie's plan, than Hillary's plan, than Jeb's plan, than Cruz's plan. Apple (and every other company that has left) are much more likely to come back under his very forgiving tax plan than ANY of those other candidates'. You can't even argue that. Less taxes = better incentive. You can whine about trickle down, but you can't dispute it.

And if you want to make it political I'll offer a different point of view (disclosure: I'm an undecided Independent). Bernie Sanders (who I like) is raising taxes on the wealthy and corporations. There's more incentive to LEAVE than to COME BACK. Example: Just a few short years ago, France raised taxes on the wealthy in attempt to gather revenue to cover the costs of their social democratic infrastructure. 2 years ago they scrapped it as their wealthy and many corporations ended up leaving for other countries. They were criticized heavily. Right now, France is literally in a state of emergency with a total lack of jobs... partly because companies moved to where taxes weren't so high.

"Same crap as before."

One could write that reply to any one of the posts you barf up.