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  • After years of rumors, Apple now has a production prototype iPhone fold

    Ok, let's cool it. It's a rumor about a foldable that's been "months away" since 2019. We'll see what happens, but I'm still not holding my breath.
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  • New Vietnam trade deal means Apple will pay at least five times more in tariffs

    Kuminga said:
    Kuminga said:
    Kuminga said:
    Kuminga said:
    Throughout this whole trade war debacle, it's pretty clear old Donnie boy knows nothing about economics, something he majored in college!

    Maybe Wharton should look into revoking his degree, because clearly he didn't learn a damn thing!
    This is an amazing deal from America. Please look again 
    How is Vietnam paying nothing for US goods and Americans paying more for goods from Vietnam a win? Americans are the losers here. We're paying more. How is that a deal?

    Kuminga said:
    Besides the headline rate numbers, The fact Vietnam was willing to open up their entire market with no trade barriers is a huge deal for US farmers . This is an amazing deal. You  are
    Right, different countries have different situations, but if this is framework . HOLY 💩🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
    Farmers export $120 billion worth of goods from the US. Vietnam imports a total of $3 billion ish in agriculture, and only a percent of that from the US. They promised to increase imports from the US in February, but it won't be the full $3 billion. This is a blip considering the rest of the world is reducing their reliance on US goods thanks to the Trump tariff policy.

    I see no victories in this trade policy or so-called "deal."
    Let me try to explain, you have it backwards 

    The 0 percent is a tariff that would be paid by Vietnam/US companies selling into Vietnam , so with 0 tariff, 

    Say if us farmer wants to sell $100 of beef to Vietnam, it will be $100, but if there was a 20 percent tariff, that same beef will be $120 with tariff cost split between the two parties or paid by US farmers . So if domestic beef is $100, people in Vietnam will have to pay $120 for US beef. Why would they buy US beef?  That is assuming no trade barriers banning us beef like there was before this deal . Now U farmers have a more even playing field 

    as for other way , they need the US consumer market so 
    U companies can most likely make Vietnam companies who wants to sell into the USA pay most of the tariff in order to access US markets 
    You just contradicted yourself in your own argument lmao
    How? If you don’t want to understand it, I cannot help you.

    Capital markets are mostly happy  with this deal so you keep doing what you do ok lol 
    Why would Vietnamese people pay $120 for US beef as a result of a tariff, but when the roles are reversed, Vietnamese people absorb the cost of tariffs so prices don't go up in America? It's a direct contradiction.
    Yes why would they pay $120 for tariffed US Beef?  But now with 0 tariff , that beef is now $100. US farmers has a new non tariffed market to sell to which is great for them, the reason they didn’t sell before was because of the trade barrier against US businesses , and even those counties with no barriers , they had a tariff, US farmers didn’t need to absorb the tariff because the US  domestic market is large enough for them  .

    But Vietnam needs to absorb or greatly sweeten that 20 percent tariff to US importer to have access US market

    if you still don’t get it, that is fine, we will just see what happens

    i just love it  


    Doesn't matter how many times you say it. That's literally not how it works. But it's fine. Believe what you like.
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  • New Vietnam trade deal means Apple will pay at least five times more in tariffs

    davgreg said:
    narwhal said:
    I'm guessing this will be the first year that prices for Apple hardware will be HIGHER in the US than other countries. The next iPhone could be $1000 in the US and $750 in Canada. Apple has a choice of either tanking its US sales or bribing an insane despot.
    Or absorbing the tax as a cost of doing business.
    Apple maintains a very high margin.
    Apple won't absorb it directly, that's too much. But it also won't raise prices in just one location. Prices will go up globally, that way the price change is less overall.
    ronnnubusp-dogsconosciuto
  • New Vietnam trade deal means Apple will pay at least five times more in tariffs

    Kuminga said:
    sunman42 said:
    Kuminga said:
    0 percent for US companies into Vietnam is incredible

    The fact Vietnam is wiling to agree to this show the ominous power of America 
    Unlike the Felon-in-Chief and his Germanic capitalization of nouns, the Vietnamese trade officials realize that this will probably result in only a relatively small hit to their exports: it’s the initial US purchaser who pays the tariffs.
    So it’s better deal before like last year when US businesses. Cannot sell things into Vietnam with Barriers as well as a 25 percent Tariff? 

    And Vietnam can sell into USA with basically no tax killing every American business?

    No thanks 
    What are you talking about? How does Vietnam selling ingredients for Pho kill American business? I know that's not all they sell, but seriously, there are some goods you can only get in Vietnam. What goods were they selling on a more limited tariff to the US that kills American business? Because that's quite the claim you'll need to back up with examples.

    Kuminga said:
    So Americans pay 20% to 40% more on all goods from Vietnam and people in Vietnam pay nothing. Good deal bro.

    Should someone ban Trump from using the word "Tariff" because isn't he always using it backwards? He claims Vietnam will pay this tariff, but that's not tariffs work.... the importer pays, not the exporter. What are we missing here with Trump's thinking processes? Maybe he's redefined a tariff, and it's now an exporting tax?

    Once again, the importer like Costco doesn’t have to buy anything with a 20 percent tariff . If the company srill
    wnst access to us markets, they can offer a 20 percent discount to Costco

    that is is how it will work 
    The companies in Vietnam can't afford to eat 20% of their revenue, which may actually be more than their profit. They'll have to charge more. Costco will pay more, so customers shopping at Costco will pay more. There's no other way this can work. The only other option is for Vietnamese companies to stop trading with the US, which would be a destruction of the United States access to valuable goods and commodities. 

    If you're going to make this argument, you have to actually provide realistic examples. This isn't it.
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  • New Vietnam trade deal means Apple will pay at least five times more in tariffs

    Kuminga said:
    Kuminga said:
    Kuminga said:
    Throughout this whole trade war debacle, it's pretty clear old Donnie boy knows nothing about economics, something he majored in college!

    Maybe Wharton should look into revoking his degree, because clearly he didn't learn a damn thing!
    This is an amazing deal from America. Please look again 
    How is Vietnam paying nothing for US goods and Americans paying more for goods from Vietnam a win? Americans are the losers here. We're paying more. How is that a deal?

    Kuminga said:
    Besides the headline rate numbers, The fact Vietnam was willing to open up their entire market with no trade barriers is a huge deal for US farmers . This is an amazing deal. You  are
    Right, different countries have different situations, but if this is framework . HOLY 💩🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
    Farmers export $120 billion worth of goods from the US. Vietnam imports a total of $3 billion ish in agriculture, and only a percent of that from the US. They promised to increase imports from the US in February, but it won't be the full $3 billion. This is a blip considering the rest of the world is reducing their reliance on US goods thanks to the Trump tariff policy.

    I see no victories in this trade policy or so-called "deal."
    Let me try to explain, you have it backwards 

    The 0 percent is a tariff that would be paid by Vietnam/US companies selling into Vietnam , so with 0 tariff, 

    Say if us farmer wants to sell $100 of beef to Vietnam, it will be $100, but if there was a 20 percent tariff, that same beef will be $120 with tariff cost split between the two parties or paid by US farmers . So if domestic beef is $100, people in Vietnam will have to pay $120 for US beef. Why would they buy US beef?  That is assuming no trade barriers banning us beef like there was before this deal . Now U farmers have a more even playing field 

    as for other way , they need the US consumer market so 
    U companies can most likely make Vietnam companies who wants to sell into the USA pay most of the tariff in order to access US markets 
    You just contradicted yourself in your own argument lmao
    How? If you don’t want to understand it, I cannot help you.

    Capital markets are mostly happy  with this deal so you keep doing what you do ok lol 
    Why would Vietnamese people pay $120 for US beef as a result of a tariff, but when the roles are reversed, Vietnamese people absorb the cost of tariffs so prices don't go up in America? It's a direct contradiction.
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