Wesley_Hilliard

9secondkox2 said:

Something I just noticed. 

The article uses a tweet to mske the claim that the TM phone is a Wingtech REVVL 7 Pro 5G. 

As in the entire claim hinges on thst tweet being more than wishful thinking. 

But they sure look like different phones, especially from the back? The camera module in particular is radically different. Also the T1 has a hole punch whereas the REVVL has a notch. And the T1 has a near-uniform thin bezel where the REVVL has a non-uniform bezel that is especially thick at the bottom. The T1 also has what looks like a Touch ID type of contact on the lower portion of the screen. That’s a lot of difference. Too much to say they’re the same thing - or declare knowledge of origin. 

T1:

REVVL:

Maybe, just maybe, this thing is made in the USA after all. Though I imagine the processors and logic come from Taiwan, Korea, or China (unless there’s some surprise we don’t know about). But there is clearly much more going on than slapping some plastic on a REVVL. Maybe a similar logic board in an entirely different device. Or maybe not. Despite camera resolution similarities, it doesn’t appear to be the same camera setup - at least from what’s visible externally. 

It's not made in America. Eric said so, but the "goal" is to eventually make it in America. We said in the article that it isn't the identical phone, but a reskinned one with new elements like the camera configuration. It's a Chinese phone made in China with a plan that costs half as much for the same stuff at any other MVNO.

9secondkox2 said:

AppleZulu said:

9secondkox2 said:

pianoman1962 said:

The guy is lying through his teeth... again. Well, no surprise there. He's not fit to run a boy scouts group, let alone a country.

Lying about what? Have you heard him speak about this at all? 

It's fascinating, if a bit sad, to watch you pivot right here in this thread from acknowledging that this is junk and 'not a good look' to trying really hard to pretend like Donald Trump has nothing to do with it. 

Of course he has everything to do with it. If he didn't, shouldn't we expect him to have already stepped up to a podium and declared that in order to protect the integrity of the Office of the President, that he must publicly insist that his sons cease and desist in this crass effort to profit from his presidency? Shouldn't he be saying, as President, he holds the public trust as sacrosanct, and he won't tolerate this or any future efforts to sully the presidency with tacky profiteering schemes? Of course he hasn't said any of that, because this was presented to him and endorsed by him before they went public with it. If he wasn't, he would have been blind-sided and publicly angry about it. 

Trump's silence on the matter is part of the problem, not the plausible deniability that you're trying to sell. 

I asked a simple objective question. The things some people try to attach to the issue simply have not presented themselves in reality. 

Best to stick with facts over conjecture. If it comes out thst this was “45/57” pulling the strings, so be it. But from all available info so far, there appears to be distance there. That’s simple fact. 

Yes, it looks like a lame offering. From a lame phone to a service of unknown quality to poor graphic design/web design, and cringeworthy “marketing,” to the whole thing just being an MVNO with a couple third party services attached to your phone bill, it’s just not compelling. And it is a bit cringeworthy. 

Is it wrong for the Trump family organization to offer this? Is it wrong to have the marketing loosely but obviously connected to the fact that their dad Donald J Trump is the 45th and 47th president? (The 47 Plan / $47.45, etc) Is it wrong to include “Mske America Great Again” on the phone wallpaper? Doubtful. Is it cringe and unappealing? Sure. I dont disagree. 

Why would the president need to be vocal about something he doesn’t have anything to do with? He might think it’s cool his kids are doing their own thing here. And? It’s not like Trump has the best aesthetic taste in the world. Sprinkling gold on everything isn’t aesthetically appealing, nor is his choice of architecture, hairstyle, spray tan, etc. but I’m sure he’s happy his kids have taken some initiative and no doubt is ok with it. Doesn’t mean he’s behind it or is wrong somehow for not getting vocal or involved against it in some other way. 

I get that this forum is predominantly hostile toward the president to say the least. And folks such as myself are in the minority here, even having moderators suggest putting such views on “ignore.” And it’s not like the president is perfect. There are plenty of things to disagree on. But nitpicking every little thing snd even nitpicking stuff that just isn’t there is too much. It becomes like the boy who cried wolf. After a while, it just becomes noise. 

But this issue is simply the man’s family doing their own thing snd banking on their dads popularity. Trump himself has not been proven to be involved, nor is there any evidence of such that I’ve seen. And I’ve been looking. If that changes, so be it. But let’s stick with the facts for now. 

You know what, you're right. There's no evidence that the phone covered in fake gold coloring with the initial of the President, running a service named after the President, focused on promoting an initiative of building in the US created by the President being made by the company the President still controls according to financial filings, has anything to do with the President.

We should all learn to reason this way. we'd all be much happier. He also isn't earning any money from crypto or bible sales and is personal friends with the Easter Bunny.

williamlondon said:

Wesley_Hilliard said:

If you find yourself disagreeing with the same user over and over to the point arguments break out, might I recommend the ignore function.

1. Click the user's name in a post to access their profile.
2. Click the little person icon in the top right of the profile page.

3. Click ignore.
4. Never see their posts again and have peace.
5. Manage ignored users or add more via your profile settings.

It’s a bit offensive you keep posting this, plus it does nothing to hide the responses, which are ALWAYS there, many from the “just as bad as trolls”-hyper argumentative types that won’t let a comment just pass by. The types that are indeed warranted to go on Ignore are not here in good faith, are not here to engage in interesting tech conversations, but rather to foment unrest and garner a bunch of attention for themselves by making childish, juvenile, offensive and inflammatory comments, something a productive discussion forum with adult members shouldn’t have to tolerate.

MacRumors years ago decided to stop enforcing their own rules and decided that coddling trolls was the route forward, a bunch of us here are from that forum and that era which we (thought we) left behind and here is where we landed (happily I would add!), but things seem at times to be headed in the exact same way and your interjections are doing nothing to deny this path.

I can't ban someone just because they're annoying or sharing incorrect information. That's out of my hands. I have bosses that make decisions about such matters. I can ban someone that is literally spamming or sharing scam links, especially if they are new accounts with low post rates.

If you feel like an account needs to be banned, reach out to the moderation team. Email Mike or private message him. It's not my call.

I'm sorry if you find offense in me posting methods to avoid annoying posters. It's my job to ensure the people here using our forums are informed about how they can use our tools and engage in them. I don't like it any more than you do, but I can't just ban people I don't agree with.

Also, the ignore function works. I tested it earlier and their posts disappeared from the thread. 

If you find yourself disagreeing with the same user over and over to the point arguments break out, might I recommend the ignore function.

1. Click the user's name in a post to access their profile.
2. Click the little person icon in the top right of the profile page.

OriginalAppleGuy said:

WHAT is this guy smoking? None of those apps have a spacial appeal other than being able to use them around you. For the record, the clock is included as a widget in 26. 

Seriously, would love to understand where people who think the apps listed could be spacial? Do you want 3D letters to come out at you? Do you want the clock to float around the room aimlessly? 

Some apps are should be 2D. Being able to use them floating in air is the AVP promise. The world as your monitor is king!

I'm not sure if you have an Apple Vision Pro or not, but being native isn't about just being 3D. Compatible apps can't be resized the same way and have significant limitations on size and shape -- they have to be landscape or portrait iPad apps. This creates a lot of weirdness when placing the windows.

Also, I acknowledged that the Clock widget is a step towards a kind of native experience, but the Clock app itself is still flat and awkward. Why not build an interactive 3D globe object that displays the time when you click on a region? How about a timer or stopwatch window that can be pinned somewhere? Not possible today.

Home could let me place spatial objects on real world lights and fixtures to control them. Calendar could have a native UI with modal windows and sidebars. Shortcuts could have a new 3D editor that lets me grab and move blocks around an automation mind map web. Podcasts should have a native player with a minimized view like Apple Music.