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OpenAI's $6.5B bet on Jony Ive could redefine how people interact with technology
I'm interested in what Apple does with AI at WWDC. "Behind," sure, if you're expecting Apple to be Google or OpenAI. Apple is leading in personal, private, and on-device AI, but that's boring and people want flashy headlines. I wouldn't bet against Apple yet anyway.MassiveAttack said:After reading John Gruber´s articles "something is rotten at Apple" and John Siracusa´s article "Apple Turnover", I have to say that something is really rotten at Apple.
Apple is behind in AI (LLM, Siri, their GPU capacity, human resources for AI etc.).
Apple is behind in their HW. Apple is launching foldables.... when??
Apple has been rotten with their timid updates for iPhones. Camera gets better and better, but not much.
iPhone 17´s design is rotten.
I mean.... What isn´t rotten?
I do not expect too much from io or OpenAI, but I hope they prove me wrong.
At the end, it is due that we really need "cool" devices nobody is thinkg about yet.
Rotten Apple.
Foldables? Yeah, it's in the works but they're expensive and target a very niche market. Still looks like a nerd-driven fad that would have been cool a decade ago, but XR has solved the problem foldables were meant to tackle -- more screen, less space.
iPhone 17 hasn't released yet.
And every "AI first" piece of hardware that has released so far has been an abject failure. Ive is a legendary designer, but design can't make up for lack of interest or use case.For both OpenAI and Apple, it's best if we wait and see what happens.
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Trump is too busy for his own tariff negotiations, so will dictate terms instead
Reread my previous post. Read our pinned forum post on politics. Again, if posts are just randomized lists of hero worship and grandstanding that have nothing to do with the topic at hand, they will be removed. Idk what anyone is trying to accomplish with these kinds of posts, but they just divert the conversation and make everyone feel the need to chime in and prove the random points wrong.
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Trump is too busy for his own tariff negotiations, so will dictate terms instead
Needless to say, we will not tolerate anti-trans, anti-gay, or other discriminatory or hateful rhetoric. Period. Not only do those topics have nothing to do with the story at hand, they're likely only being mentioned as a cudgel to attack people that think otherwise. Such posts have been deleted, as have the threads attached. If I see anything like it again, the post will be deleted and I'll be sure to mark the offender so we know if there are repeaters.
Thanks guys. Keep up the good conversation.Edit: as always, if you see any offending posts, please feel free to flag and report them. Mods can't catch everything. -
Trump has a problem with Tim Cook, because Foxconn is building factories in India
Opinions are labeled. This was not an opinion.red oak said:You should start labeling these pieces "Opinion"
Seems like a hard concept for you to understand Foxconn builds plants at the direction of Apple, for use exclusively by Apple
Apple might have meetings to suggest it wants to diversify its supply chain outside of China, but it doesn't get a final say in where factories are built. Besides, India is the go-to right now outside of China. This isn't some political choice, but a financial one. And if Apple were making the call, it would still be India.
If you've got any information that indicates otherwise, I'd be happy to see it.
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Trump has a problem with Tim Cook, because Foxconn is building factories in India
I'm not sure they believe they're being dishonest. As forum moderators, we don't get to decide what we believe forum goers are thinking or their motive behind a post. We can only take it at face value. While some might disagree with the content, it didn't violate any rules against hateful speech. You're allowed to post incorrect information and be wrong in our forums. Now, if other forum members want to point out inaccuracies, go for it, as long as it all remains civil.Stabitha_Christie said:
I got no issues with my comment(s) being deleted. I appreciate that y'all want to maintain a level of decorum while allowing people to express themselves in different ways. It is why I will participate in the forums here and not on a certain site whose name rhymes with MacRumors.Wesley_Hilliard said:Ok guys, the usual offenders are derailing the forum comments. Please refrain from generalities and unspecific worship without hard numbers. That goes for both sides. No need for insults, slights, or ad hominems of any kind.
And no, just stating that you believe something (an opinion) isn't a fact. Sharing that things are better/worse without citing numbers, resources might as well be making stuff up. No, I don't mean you have to link to sources, but a well educated person should be able to see your comment and verify the data.
It's the difference between "Trump tariffs ruined us before and they are ruining us again" versus "Tariffs caused sod prices to skyrocket resulting in billions in government bailouts to farmers in 2019, and the overall economy has dropped for the first time in years thanks to tariffs in 2025"
One is more of a feeling, accurate or not, the other is facts and figures that can easily be searched and have a tangible value and result. If you're going to go back and forth, stick to provable facts or don't bother chatting. All you're doing is stirring up people and making forum threads turn into a mess.
idk what's happened this past week, but you all were doing so well with this and have taken a big step back. Let's keep up the good work and keep forums civil and informative.
Edit: I actually deleted a post that was reasonable, (sorry Stabitha). I'm leaving the original two comments in the thread because they didn't break any forum rules and stated their opinions. It was the discourse that followed that got out of hand. Feel free to reply again to these posts cordially and with facts while avoiding any direct attacks. These get us nowhere. I hope I don't need to revisit this thread.
I will offer a small quibble. Gaslighting by posing something as an opinion is a pretty common approach on the internet machine. Gaslighting by definition is being dishonest. I feel like both comments fall fully under gaslighting. Just my 2c. Anyway, your comment section is your rules. Happy to do my best to follow them. Cheers!Besides, I believe we've got a pretty smart bunch in our forums and likely have a strong BS detector. While some posts that remain up are unfortunate and likely contain terrible inaccuracies, I don't believe anyone that's actually informed will "fall for it." And while some will respond and point out those inaccuracies, others will rely on the like/dislike feature, which seems to be doing a good job at giving forum goers a decent idea of what the majority of our members believe.
