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'Price is Right' contestants nowhere close to Apple Vision Pro's astronomical price
canucklehead said:Weird for Appleinsider to do focus on the idea that it’s overpriced. Yes, it’s expensive. It may even be slightly overpriced. But considering what it does, the tech behind it, the ultra high resolution display, and the quality of the materials, I’d argue it’s priced almost appropriately.
But to draw a conclusion that the contestants guesses - contestants who clearly know nothing about the device and the tech behind it - proves it’s overpriced, is ridiculous. -
Trump has a problem with Tim Cook, because Foxconn is building factories in India
Ok guys, the usual offenders are derailing the forum comments. Please refrain from generalities and unspecific worship without hard numbers. That goes for both sides. No need for insults, slights, or ad hominems of any kind.
And no, just stating that you believe something (an opinion) isn't a fact. Sharing that things are better/worse without citing numbers, resources might as well be making stuff up. No, I don't mean you have to link to sources, but a well educated person should be able to see your comment and verify the data.
It's the difference between "Trump tariffs ruined us before and they are ruining us again" versus "Tariffs caused sod prices to skyrocket resulting in billions in government bailouts to farmers in 2019, and the overall economy has dropped for the first time in years thanks to tariffs in 2025"
One is more of a feeling, accurate or not, the other is facts and figures that can easily be searched and have a tangible value and result. If you're going to go back and forth, stick to provable facts or don't bother chatting. All you're doing is stirring up people and making forum threads turn into a mess.
idk what's happened this past week, but you all were doing so well with this and have taken a big step back. Let's keep up the good work and keep forums civil and informative.
Edit: I actually deleted a post that was reasonable, (sorry Stabitha). I'm leaving the original two comments in the thread because they didn't break any forum rules and stated their opinions. It was the discourse that followed that got out of hand. Feel free to reply again to these posts cordially and with facts while avoiding any direct attacks. These get us nowhere. I hope I don't need to revisit this thread. -
President Trump talked to Apple CEO Tim Cook after China tariff reduction
onemoreone said:williamlondon said:onemoreone said:“There's no question: Trump's Tariff policy is destroying America's economy, creating scarcity, and causing mass job loss. I mean the proof is in the pudding, why else would our economy shrink for the first time since COVID?”
There is no evidence of any of this. I have yet to see any actual scarcity and haven’t seen any news reports of scarcity. The last jobs report showed more jobs created than expected, the current inflation report showed the lowest inflation since 2021. The GDP shrank because companies increased imports not because the economy was slowing down so really an anomaly not reality. Finally the last time the economy shrank was in the two consecutive quarters of the spring and summer of 2022 (so during the Biden recession, which wasn’t a recession because that would make Biden look bad), which was well after COVID which absolutely didn’t have any effect after 2021 (and really not after 2020).
Given that you presented no counter evidence it is pretty clear you know that what I stated is accurate,
This is a forum, not a debate platform, not a competition. There's no need to challenge each other in this way. Discuss or don't. You've shared your opinion, there's nothing more to say. -
President Trump talked to Apple CEO Tim Cook after China tariff reduction
Javert24601 said:StrangeDays said:sdw2001 said:davidmalcolm said:I suspect that Apple is really regretting not kicking both Truth Social and Twitter off the App Store.Tim got played by the right wing goons and now he’s trying to keep them from doing irreparable harm to Apple’s long term future.Don’t get me wrong, I like Tim as much as I can like any Billionaire. But it wasn’t the working class who rigged the system so that the only options were a disingenuous lady who couldn’t even say genocide was bad, and a geriatric baby who can’t remember what he said last sentence let alone last week.Apple could have been pushing Biden for more reforms that would have benefitted society. They could have been working with their unions. Instead Apple like everyone else kept acting like America could keep eating its own tail and it would never get to the head.And honestly now it’s too late for Tim to fight back in any meaningful capacity. The only thing that will give America a chance of avoiding complete collapse in the next three years is a heart attack, stroke or some other surprise illness. Or at least something that looks like one of those.America’s debt to GDP is out of control and the politicians want to slash taxes for those who need it the least so they can make… more innovative… restaurant delivery apps?The politicians are acting like they can squeeze the working class more to dig themselves out of the debt crisis that they’ve been fostering for decades.
America is being sacrificed on the alter of Reaganomics.
I completely disagree. I realize it's more than fashionable here to trash Trump, the tariffs, etc. But the reality is that our trade policy has been a nightmare for decades, particularly with China. We had been operating in the 20th-century paradigm, both for China and the rest of world. For the former, the theory of the case was "free" trade (which was nothing of then kind) would enable economic growth in both countries, but that China would liberalize as its prosperity grew. In fact, China went exactly the opposite way. China has become more closed, more authoritarian, more corrupt and more aggressive. For the latter, our policies were stuck in the post-war mentality, when Europe was devastated and we were helping them recover.
What Trump is doing is resetting these relationships. His plan should now be obvious to anyone who doesn't have--pardon me---"derangement syndrome." That goal was to triangulate China into changing the way it does business...from tariffs, to non-tariff barriers, to theft of IP, etc. Secondarily, the goal was to improve terms with our other trading partners or "allies." As a supporter of the president, I have to admit that I didn't really understand the strategy of going after allies as well as foes (or frien-a-mies.). After all, why not just target China and go the opposite way with allies? Why not treat them in a more conciliatory way, but go hard on China?
However, as deals with India, the UK, Vietnam and others took shape, it dawned on me. Trump hit everyone hard (but China harder) and then proceeded to quickly work on deals with those friendlier nations. He was able to largely correct (or is in process of correcting) the trade problems we've had with our allies, and leave China--pardon me again---standing with its junk in its hand. It explains why they are now negotiating and willing to stand down. Their economy is getting hammered, millions are unemployed, factories are closing....and Trump is running around making trade deals with everyone but them.
I'll admit it's been somewhat chaotic. Wall Street hates tariffs. But we're already seeing the results. Debt growth has slowed dramatically. Inflation is nearing the 2% target. Prices of staples (such as eggs) continue to fall. Ditto on energy prices. Private payrolls are showing solid growth. Even last quarter's GDP reduction (-.3%) was misleading, as companies like Apple rushed to import goods before tariffs kicked in (this reduces GDP in the calculation).
You've railed against debt, tax cuts, Reagannomics, etc. Briefly:
Debt: We agree on the scope of the problem. I would think you'd support things like DOGE, energy development, tax cuts for economic stimulation, etc. I'd certainly think you'd realize both parties have historically been a nightmare on this issue, but that the Democrat party is currently far, far worse (just take 2021-24 alone).
Tax cuts: I don't know where this notion of "squeezing the working class" and "tax cuts for the rich" comes from, other than the Democrat party propagandists and their media allies. The Trump tax cuts benefited the lower and working classes more than the wealthy. That is simply a fact. Another fact is that Trump and the GOP are considering actually raising taxes on the wealthy in the planned extension (reconciliation) package.
Reagannomics: I'm not sure I see the connection. I also have my doubts that you have a full understanding of what "Reaganomics" even was/is. You've no doubt been told (as nearly everyone has) that it was cutting taxes on the wealthy, slashing welfare and healthcare, and giving "tax breaks" to evil corporations and the mega rich. Sound familiar? I wonder why?
If you don’t know where the tax cuts for for the wealthy are, what can I say, you haven’t been paying attention. He did it last time and will try it again. The middle class continues to get squeezed as our costs for things like healthcare go up and up with no relief in sight. GOP cuts so-called “entitlements”. GOP votes against things insulin caps and other regulation designed to help the working class despite the loss of additional profit to wealthy corporations. Entirely departments of services are being cut by Musk, claiming they’ll be pushed down to the states, and yet our federal income tax remains the same, while we get less for it. States will be forced to cut services or charge more income tax. This is very standard and well understood stuff. The wealthy top percentage have added billions more to their hoarded wealth while minimum wage and general wages have remained stagnant. Your ignorance is bliss, I guess.
Do you think every other country is levying tariffs on US products in order to tax their own citizens? Yes, Canada was trying to "tax" their citizens 250% when buying US dairy products. /s The reality is that tariffs affect the seller country. Often/Mostly it is the producers who absorbs the costs of the tariffs. Do you need real world proof? When Trump enacted the tariffs against China during his first administration, did you see that enormous spike in prices for products from China? No? Because prices did not change for the US consumer. It was the Chinese companies that absorbed the tariff costs into their cost of doing business; this is what usually happens when tariffs are levied. So, technically, yes, the US consumer "paid" the tariff, but since the product price remained the same (this is what liberals conveniently forget to mention), the net effect was that the Chinese companies made less money and were the ones who suffered. Those tariffs were so bad for the US economy and consumers that Biden kept all of those tariffs in place. Oh, the horror!
The tax cuts from Trump's first administration largely benefited people in the working class. https://waysandmeans.house.gov/wp-content/uploads/2025/02/Correcting-the-Record-Trump-Tax-Cuts-Went-to-Wealthy.pdf There was also a recent study that was published in the last six months (earlier this year?) that showed largely the same thing.
Despite your assertion that we are "getting less" for the taxes that we pay, eliminating wasteful spending is reducing the amount of debt that the US is accumulating. It is hard to do math, but since our $37 trillion debt is so enormous, those millions and billions in savings do get lost as decimal points in the debt and interest payments. Nevertheless, it does reduce the current debt and more importantly reduce the accumulation of future debt.
Getting back to the topic at hand, the author of this article/opinion piece has chosen to editorialize rather than just report the news. If you are too weak to deal with the "tariff chaos", stop watching the news. Regardless of how you feel about it, they are succeeding by motivating companies to invest in the US. It is such a horrible problem to have companies invest $10 trillion into the US economy. What is Saudia Arabia thinking of investing another $1 trillion here as well?!?! /s Apple has an enormous profit margin, so you anti-capitalists out there shouldn't lose any sleep. Apple will be just fine. If Apple chooses to increase its prices, it is doing so because it is convenient. It can also decide to move more manufacturing to the US, just like it has been moving manufacturing from China to India. I'm not saying it is easy or cheap, but having more manufacturing in the US is beneficial to all of us.
Hopefully, I have been respectful in my discourse.
Believe what you like though. -
Apple turns to AI for battery management in iOS 19
mpantone said:I truly doubt anyone from Apple management reads the forum comments at Apple news sites however hopefully they will understand that they squandered a LOT of customer trust from Batterygate.
While they continued to state that they did not intentionally slow down older iPhones to get people to buy new devices public perception is everything.
I still have a bad taste from Batterygate and I also resent Apple's battery replacement costs. I paid them to replace the battery in an iPhone XS recently and I will probably be paying them even more to replace one in an iPhone 12 mini in the next year.
They will need to explicitly state what their AI is doing. Personally I think they should leave it turned off by default. Apple Intelligence is already pretty weak in the features they have deployed to date and many (including myself) will be very skeptical about Apple Intelligence's ability to do this correctly when/if the feature launches.
For sure if this ever appears in my iPhone's Settings, I will disable it, wait six months, read analyses and reports about its effectiveness and then decide whether or not to enable it. I don't even trust the Optimized Battery Charging feature that is currently available.
Though I'll reiterate for the sake of saying it here, Apple never purposefully slowed down iPhones in the hope that users would upgrade. That's a logical fallacy. The inadvertent shutdown protection feature ensured old iPhones could operate longer without a battery replacement or device upgrade. I don't know why people believe the opposite other than not understanding the reasoning behind the feature and the popular conspiracy.
"AI" battery management is just going to be more of what we've seen with machine learning, except I expect Apple to take more information points into account. The algorithm with an AI backend will have a better understanding of the user and make better decisions about managing battery health. Seems pretty simple.