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  • iPhone 17 may have been spotted in the wild

    wood1208 said:
    IMO, there should be universal law of not allowing anyone to take anyone's picture in public or private without that person's permission. That person, him/her/rest is own property, privacy of that person. Even people don't use someone's picture for commercial but use wrongfully for other purpose must be universally unlawful. 

    Besides that, how do you know this picture with iPhone 17 Pro is legitimate and not some kind of made from say 3D printing or handmade prototype looking based on rumors ?
    Such a law would enable bad actors to do as they please without fear of being recorded. Want a police state where no one is held accountable? Make recording in public illegal.

    Also, no one is getting fired. No one's privacy is being violated. I'm a huge privacy advocate, but i gotta say, you all are saying some pretty wild stuff. What you're describing isn't privacy, it's fear. What are you afraid of? The government cant regulate speech. Photography in public spaces is a kind of speech. I really don't understand why you think privacy and public can occur simultaneously -- they are mutually exclusive. 
    king editor the gratewilliamlondonlibertyandfreepulseimagesronn
  • iPhone 17 may have been spotted in the wild


    macgui said:
    Some of you need to stop being such Karens. This is news. Good reporting. 
    Some of "you" need to stop being such Dicks, calling people Karens for merely sharing an opinion. It is news in a limited context. Good reporting? Maybe. Besides, I like the idea of a surprise even if it's not that much "new" to unveil.

    I love a good rumor as much as the next person but can we not normalize this kind of behavior? While it isn't illegal to take someone's photo in public is still an invasion of privacy and promoting this kind of thing will only lead to more instances of this kind of thing. 
    Sorry to say, but the law is quite clear, when in public, it is fair game. While I can't take a photo of someone and use it commercially, there's nothing stopping anyone from taking photos, recording video, or capturing audio of anyone in public.

    Like I said in the piece, it's not something that's going to be a problem because these kinds of design changes are very rare. Nearly every other prototype iPhone has looked identical to its predecessor with the exception of iPhone X, which was prototyped in a literal brick-sized box IIRC.

    I wouldn't worry about this becoming a common way to leak iPhone information.
    ...I clearly stated it wasn’t illegal but legality doesn’t make it right. People should be able to go out in public without someone photographing them. When you use the photos you are ultimately enabling the behavior. Cool that you didn’t break the law but did y’all make the right choice. 
    I agree. Enabling bad behavior doesn't help. But that's another genie that will never be put back in the bottle. Paparazzi selling their pics to tabloids because the public believes in "their right to know" proves that. This and every other tech news/rumor site operates on much the same way. I doubt that many sites pay for this kind of "news" not that it matters much. So I agree in a better world this wouldn't have happened. We have to make peace the best we can and pick our battles.

    Let's assume this is an actual pic and not AI. Sunglasses knew he'd be the subject of pics if the rumors of his security team are accurate. The whole situation gives me a "staged" feel. Who is he? An Apple employee doesn't seem probably. Why was he photographing the alleged 17 outdoors in what appears to be a public area? Who provided the phone? Is this an Official Apple Leak?

    Then there's a question (of me at least) of whether or not as previously mentioned this is an AI generated rendering and not a photo. The third finger of the left hand looks to be obscured by some artifact. Sunglasses' reflection in the 17 looks to me to be at a wrong angle. Sunglasses' sunglasses reflect almost completely different images. That might be explained by a bend in a bridge. That whole situation gives me "fake" feel.

    All speculation on my part. You're all free to move about the cabin.
    This isn't AI generated. It's not really all that odd, we've discovered prototype devices and they look like this. It's not staged, the guy just got unlucky that some nerd spotted them and took a photo. They were clearly trying to at least be discrete.

    Can't test real world devices without being in the real world. Stuff like this is bound to happen. It only doesn't, because again, most new iPhones look like the old ones. This is the exception.

    The artifacts and grain suggest the photo was taken from far away. Anomalies were likely further enhanced by the image processing on iPhone, then the processing performed when we enlarged the photo to be usable on the web.

    Let's not get into conspiracy territory. It's not that big a deal anyway. It's just a photo of an Apple employee testing an iPhone a few weeks before it is announced. It isn't that hard to believe.

    And news sites don't pay for news. News is what happens, whether you like it or not. Paying for information can lead to charges of corporate espionage, and it's also highly unethical and against every form of journalistic integrity.
    king editor the gratewilliamlondonStrangeDaysronn
  • iPhone 17 may have been spotted in the wild

    I love a good rumor as much as the next person but can we not normalize this kind of behavior? While it isn't illegal to take someone's photo in public is still an invasion of privacy and promoting this kind of thing will only lead to more instances of this kind of thing. 
    Sorry to say, but the law is quite clear, when in public, it is fair game. While I can't take a photo of someone and use it commercially, there's nothing stopping anyone from taking photos, recording video, or capturing audio of anyone in public.

    Like I said in the piece, it's not something that's going to be a problem because these kinds of design changes are very rare. Nearly every other prototype iPhone has looked identical to its predecessor with the exception of iPhone X, which was prototyped in a literal brick-sized box IIRC.

    I wouldn't worry about this becoming a common way to leak iPhone information.
    Not sure if you missed the point or intentionally avoiding it. I clearly stated it wasn’t illegal but legality doesn’t make it right. People should be able to go out in public without someone photographing them. When you use the photos you are ultimately enabling the behavior. Cool that you didn’t break the law but did y’all make the right choice. This person now has their pictures splattered around the internet. The news value?  That there is a new phone and if you put in a giant case no one will see what it looks like? Stop the presses! 
    Don't want to be photographed? Don't stand in broad daylight with a prototype iPhone in a public area. idk what to tell you.
    takeoking editor the gratewilliamlondonStrangeDaysappleinsideruserronn
  • iPhone 17 may have been spotted in the wild

    bobonet said:
    I love a good rumor as much as the next person but can we not normalize this kind of behavior? While it isn't illegal to take someone's photo in public is still an invasion of privacy and promoting this kind of thing will only lead to more instances of this kind of thing. 
    Sorry to say, but the law is quite clear, when in public, it is fair game. While I can't take a photo of someone and use it commercially, there's nothing stopping anyone from taking photos, recording video, or capturing audio of anyone in public.

    Would this article count as commercial use?
    I didn't take the photo, so no. This was posted to a public forum. And even then, the photo wasn't used to promote a product or make us money as a direct result of taking the photo. Commercial use being, if I went to a public space, took a picture of a person wearing a jacket, then used that photo to sell that jacket, then I'd be violating something.
    muthuk_vanalingamchiaking editor the grateronn
  • iPhone 17 may have been spotted in the wild

    I love a good rumor as much as the next person but can we not normalize this kind of behavior? While it isn't illegal to take someone's photo in public is still an invasion of privacy and promoting this kind of thing will only lead to more instances of this kind of thing. 
    Sorry to say, but the law is quite clear, when in public, it is fair game. While I can't take a photo of someone and use it commercially, there's nothing stopping anyone from taking photos, recording video, or capturing audio of anyone in public.

    Like I said in the piece, it's not something that's going to be a problem because these kinds of design changes are very rare. Nearly every other prototype iPhone has looked identical to its predecessor with the exception of iPhone X, which was prototyped in a literal brick-sized box IIRC.

    I wouldn't worry about this becoming a common way to leak iPhone information.
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