Wesley_Hilliard

I love that Amber and I can have such equally valid and opposing opinions on Apple. Gives you all some variety. Examining the keynote purely objectively, yeah, it feels small and the redesign took over the whole thing. However, I'm pretty excited about all the small stuff, and of course, I really can't wait to see what developers do with the new APIs.

Pretty happy with this redesign, personally. I think some of the more busy screenshots with readability issues are the exception, not the rule. It's been quite interesting and responsive in my use so far, though I'm sure some tweaks will be made through the summer.

I take an opposite opinion. The content, like in Apple News or a social media app, isn't the "design." That's all going to looks relatively the same regardless of the window chrome. What changed was every aspect of how a user interacts with an app besides scrolling. Buttons, bars, tabs, and menus are all altered. I think it goes beyond a layer of paint.

It isn't as dramatic as trading out the felt of a casino table for a plain white backdrop, but there's also a lot more OS chrome today than there was in iOS 7. The square footage of what was affected during the keynote yesterday was much much more than iOS 7, and I think people will notice.

It is an opinionated design that users have the ability to walk back a bit with some toggles and customization. I'm happy that Apple has an opinion on design again -- things we're feeling a little too flat to the point that Android could easily skin and look like Apple's OS. This will be much harder to copy.

We like passion about design, but cool it with the silly insults. Thanks

Stabitha_Christie said:

blastdoor said:

9secondkox2 said:

China gonna China. But it's not like everyone is clamoring for th current version of Apple's AI.

Srsly. I use the enterprise version of ChatGPT almost every day for real work. All I’ve used apple intelligence for is Genmoji. 

Anybody arguing Apple isn’t behind is either a hopelessly delusional fan or just knows nothing about what others in this field are doing. 

Has Apple ever stated that they even want to compete with ChatGPT? To the best of my knowledge they haven’t. I mean, Apple is also behind in DHCP servers, they are behind on their ride share app, they are behind on a lot of things because they don’t compete in spaces. You are starting from a faulty premise. Why does Apple need a chatbot? No one has really answered they. They just kind of assumed that they do and then declared them behind. ChatGPT is great. I haven’t dabbled much with Gemini, Co-Pilot or whatever Meta calls their thing but I could. All of these things are available on my iPhone and Mac. As a user I am not missing out on anything and all of these chatbots need a platform to run on. Apple has some of the most popular platforms. And going a step further, no one is making a profit off their chat bot. The only company making money is NVIDIA. So, what exactly is the issue, I’d love for someone to explain it without just mindlessly repeating the “Apple is behind”narrative. 

Apple is really far behind in electric bikes, stoves, and pens. They better get on it.

Stabitha_Christie said:

9secondkox2 said:

Nasty. After all the moving forward, we are going back to skeuomorphism? Please God no. It was fun for a long time, then we moved on to a more authentic, refined, and clean UI/UX. This just looks like a giant backwards step. 

Skeuomorphism never left iOS. Perhaps you don’t use Calendar, Calculator, Notes, Wallet or the number of other places it is present in iOS or maybe you are confused on what skeuomorphic is. The latter is pretty common. 

In a world where tech is moving to mixed reality, making digital objects look and behave like real ones is essential. visionOS is spatial skeuomorphism and applying that design to other operating systems brings those values with it.