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DOJ goes after US citizen for developing anti-ICE app
9secondkox2 said:Great. Obstruction of justice is a criminal offense. Doesn't matter if it's done via an app or not.
Sending dozens of officers walking in a straight line through a city park armed to the teeth is the opposite of seeking out people that already committed crimes.9secondkox2 said:
Totally different issues.Mike Wuerthele said:
It is exactly what I have bolded. Courts for decades have upheld the right of people to do exactly that. Apple Maps now will warn you of a speed trap, and the administration doesn't seem to care about that.pixeltini said:Hmm, who could have guessed interfering with law enforcement efforts would be illegal? It's no different than attempting to block a police vehicle doing its duty to protect Americans against those who would do us harm. You know… gang members, drug dealers, convicted felons, cartel thugs, human traffickers, and so on.
And let's call out the specious idea that Ice Block is no different than a radar detector or warning drivers of a speed trap. A speed zone warning is an alert to POTENTIAL law breakers. Ice Block interferes with police efforts to apprehend individuals who have ALREADY BROKEN AT LEAST ONE LAW. Do you see the difference? Well do you?
Pardon me for using logic and pointing out the obvious. Now go ahead and hurl the Leftist phrases you learned from CNN.Why? Because it's legal. Because ruling after ruling, it's been ruled as protected by the first amendment.
So has freedom of the press, which is what the administration is apparently more pissed about.
The key difference between the red light / speed trap warnings is that they help limit the POTENTIAL of committing a crime/violation - it's actually a great deterrent - whereas ICE raids are about addressing ALREADY COMMITTED crime/violations. You can't deter an already committed crime.
Speed trap warnings in Apple Maps are helpful to avoid breaking the law and getting busted for it. ICE maps apps are simply helping criminals get away with crime. Huge difference.
You don't aid and abet a criminal in escaping the police during a raid or chase. In the same way, you don't aid and abet illegal aliens to escape the law.
This is likely not going to go well for the maker of the app.Again, 65% of people kidnapped by ICE have zero convictions. 93% have zero violent convictions. Trump has ordered an unrealistic goal of 3,000 arrests per day. Most of the people deported to foreign slave prisons were sent without due process, separated from their families, then tortured for fun by the government Trump is working with.
Letting people know that they could potentially be in the area of a indiscriminate police force exclusively rounding up brown people to sate the president's quota is no different than telling people about a flash flood that's about to upend their lives and potentially bring death and suffering. At least in this case the ICE app works where our government does not.
not to mention it and CNN's reporting are both completely legal. The funniest part is the app is only this popular because of Trump bringing light to it.
stop spreading propaganda and nonsense. Unless you can name the law that is being violated, you're just spamming at this point.
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What Apple products will get hit the hardest by Trump's new tariff orders
Right, but if Apple were to build products here, these tariffs would increase the cost of imports. It directly contradicts the supposed purpose of the tariffs.twolf2919 said:"For Apple, Monday's list of tariff letters means it faces even more costs than it did before April's omnibus announcement for importing goods in the future." - why is that? The announced tariffs on Japan, Korea, Malaysia, and Khazakstan are tariffs the US will begin charging for goods coming into the US from those countries. As far as I know, Apple doesn't import goods - INTO THE US - from any of these countries. It is importing parts from them into China, Taiwan, and India - so these US tariffs are irrelevant, no? Far more important is what China, Taiwan, and India tariff goods from those countries at.
Also, the Trump administration is writing more rules around tariffs to penalize companies that try to get around tariffs by moving products between countries before importing them to the US, like Apple did with India.
It's complicated, but this isn't going to be zero effect on Apple for sure. It just adds to the overall costs of tariffs, which are already astronomical.TLDR: None of this is working how it should or how it was promised.
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DOJ goes after US citizen for developing anti-ICE app
pixeltini said:Hmm, who could have guessed interfering with law enforcement efforts would be illegal? It's no different than attempting to block a police vehicle doing its duty to protect Americans against those who would do us harm. You know… gang members, drug dealers, convicted felons, cartel thugs, human traffickers, and so on.
And let's call out the specious idea that Ice Block is no different than a radar detector or warning drivers of a speed trap. A speed zone warning is an alert to POTENTIAL law breakers. Ice Block interferes with police efforts to apprehend individuals who have ALREADY BROKEN AT LEAST ONE LAW. Do you see the difference? Well do you?
Pardon me for using logic and pointing out the obvious. Now go ahead and hurl the Leftist phrases you learned from CNN.65% of people kidnapped by ICE have zero convictions. 93% have zero violent convictions. The app works like a crowdsourced app similar to Waze. Users can report sightings the same way they can report a pothole in Waze. It is against the first amendment for the government to restrict speech of any kind.They built a concentration camp on asphalt in the middle of a swamp surrounded by alligators they hope will eat them. These are facts.
Careful with the CNN leftie stuff. We're not going to tolerate ad hominem attacks, insults, or any kind of propaganda.
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New Vietnam trade deal means Apple will pay at least five times more in tariffs
Think about it however you like. No point in discussing it with a wall. Our article and the miles of forum posts contradict everything you've shard. No need to repeat it again. Believe what you like, it's inconsequential.9secondkox2 said:
I guess when confronted with the facts, just dismiss, eh? LOLWesley_Hilliard said:
"lol, no" is about all the time this post is worth.9secondkox2 said:so… tje idea that the usa is not imposing tarriffs on Vietnam is incorrect.The two countries are equalizing their tarriffs with the same rates.The USA is charging 20% direct snd 40% trans-shipped.Plus the usa gets a wide open door to sell to Vietnam markets.Seems like a pretty clear win for the usa.Tarriffs equal out, creating a level playing field, but then the USA gains a marketplace to sell previously difficult to penetrate.So, it may not be crazy, but it’s a notable win.From cnn of all places:Trump said the United States will charge a 20% tariff for Vietnamese exports into America, and a 40% tariff for “transshipping.” US Commerce Secretary Howard Lutnick said in a post on X Wednesday afternoon the “transshipping” tariff means “if another country sells their content through products exported by Vietnam to us — they’ll get hit with a 40% tariff.”
The 20% tariff is double the current minimum tariff rate the US is charging on goods from Vietnam and virtually every other country.
“In return, Vietnam will do something that they have never done before, give the United States of America TOTAL ACCESS to their Markets for Trade,” he added. “In other words, they will ‘OPEN THEIR MARKET TO THE UNITED STATES,’ meaning that, we will be able to sell our product into Vietnam at ZERO Tariff.”
https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2025/07/02/business/trade-deal-vietnam-trumpI don’t know how snyonr can argue against this move. Yet Another notch in the win column.It’s a “lopsided deal” in favor of the USA according to some economists.
https://fox59.com/business/ap-business/ap-president-trump-announces-trade-deal-with-vietnam-that-will-let-us-goods-into-the-country-duty-free/amp/ -
New Vietnam trade deal means Apple will pay at least five times more in tariffs
"lol, no" is about all the time this post is worth.9secondkox2 said:so… tje idea that the usa is not imposing tarriffs on Vietnam is incorrect.The two countries are equalizing their tarriffs with the same rates.The USA is charging 20% direct snd 40% trans-shipped.Plus the usa gets a wide open door to sell to Vietnam markets.Seems like a pretty clear win for the usa.Tarriffs equal out, creating a level playing field, but then the USA gains a marketplace to sell previously difficult to penetrate.So, it may not be crazy, but it’s a notable win.From cnn of all places:Trump said the United States will charge a 20% tariff for Vietnamese exports into America, and a 40% tariff for “transshipping.” US Commerce Secretary Howard Lutnick said in a post on X Wednesday afternoon the “transshipping” tariff means “if another country sells their content through products exported by Vietnam to us — they’ll get hit with a 40% tariff.”
The 20% tariff is double the current minimum tariff rate the US is charging on goods from Vietnam and virtually every other country.
“In return, Vietnam will do something that they have never done before, give the United States of America TOTAL ACCESS to their Markets for Trade,” he added. “In other words, they will ‘OPEN THEIR MARKET TO THE UNITED STATES,’ meaning that, we will be able to sell our product into Vietnam at ZERO Tariff.”
https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2025/07/02/business/trade-deal-vietnam-trumpI don’t know how snyonr can argue against this move. Yet Another notch in the win column.It’s a “lopsided deal” in favor of the USA according to some economists.
https://fox59.com/business/ap-business/ap-president-trump-announces-trade-deal-with-vietnam-that-will-let-us-goods-into-the-country-duty-free/amp/
