dyonoctis

From what I've understood, going forward win 11 will have strict hardware and drivers requirement, the cpu must have a tpm 2.0 chip, the uefi need to be 100% secure boot etc...the M1 Mac might be so different not only on a hardware level, but also a firmware level, that Microsoft won't bother making optimization for such a low % of potential clients 

cpsro said:

macOS has a dock for 20+ years. 2021, Microsoft announces whiz-bang dock, where nothing stays where you put it.
June 7, 2021, iPadOS 15 multitasking gets panned. June 24, 2021, Microsoft announces iPadOS 15-like multitasking.
Apple lowers commissions. Microsoft lowers them further, in all-out effort to coerce more malware to the Mac.
2020, Apple brings iOS apps to the Mac. 2021, Microsoft brings Android malware to Windows.

You can actually pin programs on the task bar, and launch them, since win 10, the taskbar was already a dock.
Windows had panned multitasking since win 7, they merely changed in the interface

If you read his full post, he's saying that developping for MacOs isn't as easy as it sounds, Apple support seems to prioritize big developers, while ignoring smaller dev, so when you have a problem, you're all alone to try and fix it.

"Could I have learned my way around modern macOS and tried to preserve that part of the company? I dunno, maybe eventually. These past few years have spawned an absurd amount of new technologies, many of them absurdly complex - Vulkan alone has been a multi-year learning process and I still barely understand a large portion of the spec. But in Vulkan's case, I wanted to learn to use it. Metal may be nicer to look at in comparison, but beauty is only skin-deep - any multiplatform developer will tell you that Mac drivers still haven't improved despite Metal happening, and reporting bugs to Apple when you're not rich is like pulling teeth with boxing gloves. Contrast that with Linux, where Vulkan is in some places downright appalling, but when we run into driver problems I just post a RenderDoc capture on the Mesa issue tracker and get a response (and sometimes even a commit hash!) usually on the same day." 

JFC, it's because of that that some of us Apple users  are being called pricks on sight. Seriously people, when the M1 was released everyone on that forum started to tell how it would change the industry, how a shift from x86 would happen.

 And when that begins to happens, all the people who are still stuck in the early 90's and 00's are out, 30 years later and still bitter about everything that happened, are showing that they have only one thing in mind : "KILL MICROSOFT, WE NEED AN APPLE MONOPOLY".

I don't get it, Apple products are great, the company is sucessfull, it's literally the most profitable company in the world, why are you acting like a bunch of insecure people who always feel the need to belittle other ?  (case in point that one guy above who went off topic and said that the surface laptop 3 are made of plastic, when they are actually made of metal, or alcantara.) Apple isn't a small and delicate company suffering from a thing that happened decades ago, they are a f**** behemot on top of the world.

What is happening right now is great for everyone, you need to finally realise that there's always going to be a part of the population who's going to prefer Pc's (or Android), no matter what. They have their reasons. It's like manual and automatic cars. Even if automatic cars are easier to use, some people like driving a manual car, you'd have to be a real prick to shame them about that.

sflocal said:

Apple's chip beats out Qualcomm chips?  Wake me up in a few years when Qualcomm actually does something.

This is embarrassing.

I'll have to find it again, but Anandtech explained a few years back why Apple CPU are faster, and why it's going to be hard for Qualcomm to compete. The way that Apple is designing their CPU is really expensive, for them it doesn't matter that much since they are using it in their own smartphone, so they can still enjoy the margin. If Qualcomm ever made a cpu design that's as expensive, the price would skyrocket, and smartphone makers wouldn't want to buy them unless they start making phones that are even more expensive than they are right now.

Competing with Apple isn't just about making a CPU that's as fast, it's actually making a CPU as fast, but cheaper to make.

And the same applies to Laptop/Destkop CPU, the M1 isn't a CPU that's cost efficient to make, Apple did things that would make other cpu makers go bankrupt if they ever tried to copy them. That's the perks of vertical integration.