Chris_Pelham

One possible reason for releasing an Apple television set would be to pull in more viewers for its AppleTV service. You would know the TV has no spyware, and if it was pretty compelling, maybe a 6K or 8K panel that displays HD and 4K beautifully, is very easy to set up, and can connect to multiple (more than 2) HomePods for effective Dolby Atmos sound, and also had Apple Intelligence and web cam built in for Facetime, Zoom, etc., it could attract buyers who were not necessarily already subscribing to AppleTV.

paisleydisco said:

The brand new Mac mini with the M4 Pro chip offers three Thunderbolt 5 ports. The regular M4 chip ships with three Thunderbolt 4 ports.

Why do you guys suppose Thunderbolt 5 isn’t being offered on the new iMac?

I don't really need the MacBook Pro to be less bulky per se, and not at the expense of the speakers or functionality, but weight reductions are always welcome. The current MacBook Air is a dream for what it is. I'm always surprised by how light it feels. The only improvement I'd reasonably ask for is another Thunderbolt port on the other side for extra convenience.

mjtomlin said:

9secondkox2 said:

Kinda feeling Apple will buck history here and update quite a few Mac’s this year to m4 status for multiple reasons:

a) it cleans up the generational mess over the last couple of years. 

b) it puts further distance between apple silicon and Qualcomm’s disingenuous comparisons. 

C) it allows for Apple Intelligence to shine on all Mac’s, showcasing Apple as the AI leader. 

Between a and b, apple gets seen as the place to go for top tier ai. 

D) M3 is/was expensive to fab.

Personally I think Apple will make the most of the M3 line until it becomes cost effective to ditch it. Sticking those SoC's in their highest selling systems; laptops and iMac is an indication that's what's going on here, especially after debuting the M4 in the latest iPad Pro. Any new Macs from this point forward will have the M4, and I think all of the aforementioned systems will be the last to get upgraded to it.

This year (after macOS Sequoia is released) we'll see the rest of the "low sales" systems get upgraded to the M4...

Mac mini M4/Pro
Mac Studio M4 Max/Ultra
Mac Pro M4 Ultra

Then next Spring/Summer, the others will get updated. (And with the debut of the iMac M4, we'll finally get back the larger iMac Pro M4 Pro/Max)

I think that is very plausible and even likely as long as they have the Max and Ultra chips ready.

Well, the M3 wouldn’t support iPad Pro’s new screen and they apparently had enough M4 chips ready so we got an M4 iPad Pro. As others have said, it may take them additional months to have enough M4’s to update all the other lines as well as to manufactures the M4 Pro, Max, and Ultra chips.  One other possible explanation for a delay could be that Apple wants to include Thunderbolt 5 in some or all of these models and bring out an updated Studio Display to take advantage.

While Apple does sometimes just update a particular spec, it seems like when they multiple advancements at hand, they like to roll them out all at once rather than piecemeal. I couldn’t really see Apple announcing M4 (but not M4 Pro, Max, and Ultra) desktops now and then 4-9 months later adding those faster chips along with Thunderbolt 5 and whatever else might be upgraded. Probably there is not that much demand for the base model Studios and Mac Pros? And the advancement of the M4 would not be much news if it is slower than the high-end M2s so who would upgrade to that rather than wait a few more months for the truly high-power models? I get that its frustrating to know that the M4 is out and yet we seemingly won’t be able to use it in a Mac for awhile, but we can also see it as, you know, Christmas came early for the iPad Pro, the glass is half full rather than half empty, and lots more goodies are coming soon!