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dysamoria said:

sflocal said:

avon b7 said:

No chin, at last!

But I've had it with all-in-ones. I'll never buy a desktop Mac with the screen glued onto it again. 

Your complaint is moot.  I think the new iMacs will be essentially a giant iPad with everything soldered in.  Gone will be the days where one could at least upgrade the RAM.

What's your beef with removing the display?  Open that display once (or twice) ever in its life it too much?  I can remove and reinstall my iMac display in minutes.  It's a non-issue.

You don’t end up with dust all over the LCD panel? I don’t know how much they changed it since the 2011 model, but that one is an effing PITA to manipulate everything AND you WILL end up with dust and whatnot stuck to the LCD before you get the glass back over it.

Incorrect.  You don't have to manipulate everything, but you do have to use care and the proper cloth to make sure there is no dust on the LCD when you re-seat the glass.  The LCD panel on the 2011 and earlier iMacs is physically attached to the main chassis with 8 screws.  The glass is held on by magnets.  Using a proper microfiber cloth and following simple directions, you can set the glass on the bottom edge of the 'chin' and wipe both the LCD and inside of the glass removing the dust and then set the glass back onto the chassis.  Apple uses a special roller that removes the dust when replacing the glass.  I did it many times when I upgraded my 27" 2011 iMac with two 1TB SSDs on the internal SATA ports and also replaced a dead optical drive.  Over time, dust does begin to accumulate on the LCD from general use because there is a 2mm gap between the LCD and the glass panel, requiring you to remove the glass and do a wipe down to restore the clarity of the display.   The Thunderbolt Displays were the same way.

Apple hasn't had any innovative products since the Apple Watch.  And really, that is just an extension of the iPhone and iPad, within the iOS ecosystem.

MacBooks from 2016-2019 with butterfly keyboards have been a reliability mess for Apple, finally fixing the problem once Ive was gone.  Now Apple is bringing back I/O ports that people actually used because using a dongle for everything is a pain.  Zero innovation with services.  Boring things to watch on AppleTV+, and they cannot even get people to pay for it, considering Peacock has more paying subscribers (and Peacock is 2nd to last place).  HomePods and AirPods are speaker products with less features than the competition, with mediocre sound, and cost twice as much.  We all know what happened with AirPower.  Mac Pro trash can - major thermal failure.  Took way too long to fix that problem.  The new Mac Pro - a product grossly overpriced, including the $800 wheels and a $5,000 display with an optional $1,000 stand (not what consumers have been asking for).  And now there are rumors of a $3,000 pair of AR glasses/goggles? The M1 is not innovation.  Switching processors is not innovative.  Apple has been making their own silicon for 10 years.  The first M1 Macs have less features than the Intel models they replaced.  Another rumor is a G4-Cube like Mac Pro?  The G4 Cube failed after a year.  Why is Apple repeating their same mistakes?  Apple over the years has been throwing stuff on a wall to see what sticks.  They haven't come up with any products that people did not realize they needed, which is what Steve Jobs was always able to do.  At least now that Ive is gone, they are able to go back and fix their hardware mistakes and make more reliable Macs.  (But the M-based iMac coming soon will have non-upgradable memory and non-upgradable storage, so people will have to pay the high Apple Tax for point of sale upgrades.  Ouch!).  Tim Cook is a numbers guy.  He doesn't have vision.  Apple has been very profitable, so good news during a horrible pandemic, but being late to the game with most of their products is not innovation.

thedba said:

The two products that stood out in 2020 are AirPods Max and the M1 Macs. On the services side I would also add Apple One. 
Phil Schiller's "Can't Innovate....My a$$" remark rings more true now than ever. 

That is amusing that you bring up Phil's ridiculous comment.  His comment referred to the trash can Mac Pro, one of Apple's biggest failures in history.  A Mac that sat on their price list for 6 years and they could not even do the slightest update because it was a thermal disaster.  Hardly call one of their failures innovation.

Also, the AirPods Max is not an innovative product.  It is a pair of overpriced headphones that have less features than far superior headphones on the market that cost half the price.  Also, switching processors is not innovation.  The first M1 Macs are faster with native code, but they have less features than the Intel models they replaced.  How is that innovation?  Let's hope Apple's next chip to replace the limited M1 is far superior.

swat671 said:

I wonder why they need THREE RC’s...? The entire reason you have a release candidate is because you think there are no more issues and the software is ready for release. The fact there were so many bugs that you needed 2 more RC’s makes me a tad bit nervous.  

That is not what 'Release Candidate' means.  Candidate...meaning there can be more candidates if necessary.  Don't confuse that with 'Golden Master' from the old days in which software was deemed final and ready for disc burning production.  Release Candidate means Apple needs developers and public beta users to test a few more issues to make sure it is stable before final release.

Wouldn't you be more nervous if Apple released the first candidate only to find out later from the masses that a few bugs still needed to be ironed out?  Then you would all be complaining about how the bugs were still present.  Did you know that the RC of 11.1 was not the final release version?  The released version of 11.1 had a later build number than the RC version.  'So many bugs'.  How do you know?  Typically the RC is pretty much done except for a few minor things that need final testing to determine if a few more changes are necessary.

bulk001 said:

@fastasleep  Even things like spotlight don’t work well, my input / output sound devices including internal audio disappear randomly, safari crashes several times a day, the OS itself crashes once a day. The OS is just generally sluggish overall. It has been this way for almost all their updates over the past few years and I am sure it will get better. I just updated my test machine too soon. 

Do a clean install of Big Sur.  Mojave and Catalina were both jacked up with the Safari 14 update.  Don't try to update to Big Sur from either of those versions after the Safari 14 and security updates were applied.  If you do a clean install of Big Sur and restore your data (not from Time Machine), you will have a much more stable system.  Any time Apple does a major OS release, it is always best to do a clean install of a new system and restore your files.