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  • 'Apple Together' group organizing corporate, retail walkout on Dec. 24

    iadlib said:
    Cher Scarlett nearly died yesterday. What you don't understand is that women get harassed 100X more than men when they stand up for anything. That harassment in the digital age might not ever cease and can go viral. Think mob mentality. This can include the kind of intimidation tactics that specifically harm women in our misogynist society. The ironic part is that women and other minorities are the ones fighting for equality and that benefits us all. Remember the bible story of David vs Goliath? This is that and your attitude and behavior are both unwarranted and ill informed coming from a very male perspective. Instead, try having a little empathy for those who have the balls to accomplish what men can't and won't. That's conviction. 

    OH and I should add that I worked for Apple and saw firsthand the way people (including myself) were mistreated. As a cisgender hetero white male, I didn't have any protection from the managers in the white male good ol' boys club either. Difference is that my entire retail store didn't turn against me spurred on by corporate watchdogs who only care about the bottom line to ruin my reputation. Thank god for small favors in my case.

    tommikele said:


    Don't like the conditions and your employer isn't breaking the law? Have conviction and quit. Walking off the job is a very different thing than a protest. By all means protest. Walk off the job? See you at the unemployment office.

    Odds are good Cher Scarlett is behind much of this.

    1. If Cher Scarlett had ‘nearly’ died yesterday, she would have posted it on Twitter today at the latest. Instead, she's cheering about her new job in the same place. (God protect the Seattle Cancer Care Alliance)
    2. Women are not a minority and our society is not misogynistic per se. This is a derision of women who live in truly misogynistic societies, for example in Africa and the Middle East, including the Gulf States.
    3. Men have multiple fought for justice throughout history and paid a high blood price for it.
    Denying this is the typical behavior of white, privileged and mostly cis-straight men, who use it to offer themselves to women as pseudo-feminist super-allies.
    Otherwise, nice anecdote.
    She posted about it on Medium, but it was on Monday night, not yesterday. 

    Why would she be behind a retail walkout, though? She worked in corporate.
    ronn
  • #AppleToo organizer Cher Scarlett to leave Apple, drop NLRB complaint after settlement

    Apple tends to fight all the fights it thinks it has a chance of winning. The fact that it didn't fight here is suggestive, though clearly not conclusive.

    ...
    Any company or public person accused of sexual misconduct or gender discrimination in the media is not guilty until proven innocent.  They're just guilty -- the allegation alone is sufficient to prove their guilt.  (Unless they can buy their way to innocence)
    She filed a charge with the NLRB against Apple for allegedly stopping their employees from discussing their pay. I think you are confusing her with the other woman who got fired
    palegolas said:
    Settlement doesn’t always mean money is involved. Like, if she is a leaker, as indicated in some reports, and had to be outed as a leaker in court, that wouldn’t reflect well on her credibility in the case, and maybe damage her credibility for life. And maybe she wasn’t ready for that? Like, if you’re dishonest in one area, what’s not to say you’re dishonest in other areas. Of course a movement like Appletoo needs to be organised by someone who isn’t afraid to be cheeky and burn a few bridges. Maybe she has those qualities? But I think it helps if they’re regarded as honest people.
    It seems unlikely money was involved here. The NLRB does not assess punitive damages for violations of the NLRA other than backpay in cases of wrongful termination and constructive discharge. The most that would come from this would be a post on a bulletin board (watch John Oliver's segment from last Sunday). If the EEOC or DFEH was at play in her "dispute" with Apple, in addition to the NLRB, then it's possible she settled before a lawsuit was filed, but that would be in Apple's favor, not hers.

    It's unfortunate she seems to be bound by an NDA, as I'm interested to know what prompted her to walk away from a situation that, had discrimination or retaliation been at play, likely would have been much for favorable for her had she not elected to release any potential claims with them.

    red oak said:
    crowley said:
    Apple tends to fight all the fights it thinks it has a chance of winning. The fact that it didn't fight here is suggestive, though clearly not conclusive.

    But beyond that... I seriously can't believe how much sh*t so many of you are full of.

    I don't know this woman and I have no idea whether her complaint had any merit or not. But for you all to insist that she make a grand sacrifice for others to demonstrate her honesty is risible. How many of you would have the courage to do that? A bunch of cowardly internet commenters hiding behind anonymity and outrage. (And yes I'm entirely aware that this applies to me too, in this case. Not happy about the company I'm keeping at the moment, but whatever.)

    You don't know what her life is. Maybe she is a grifter. Or maybe she's a single mom who thinks it's more important to feed her kid. I honestly don't care enough to find out, but I'm not going to judge her when I'm that lazy. I *do* judge the lot of you however. A pathetic crowd so panicked at the possible loss of their male privilege that they are willing to spend their time commenting on a nothing story like this to make themselves feel better.

    And a special shout-out to "Beats" for this: "...a person who understands women more than women do", hilarious. I don't have a clue about women but I clearly understand them way better than you do.
    Well said.
    She has made a career doing this at previous jobs.   She blew up a chance at a lucrative career at Apple.  Likely now un-employable in the tech sector

    She is the sort of person who is a cancer inside the likes of an Apple 


    I read her bio in the Washington Post, this doesn't seem to be true. Can you share some information on how she has done this previously? The only thing I could find was that she signed an NDA at a previous company for one month of severance after quitting and didn't realize she was discriminated against and constructively discharged until she filed for unemployment after she had left.

    Ultimately I sense that the toxic speculation here has come much too soon, and whenever her NDA expires, we'll learn what really occurred here.
    muthuk_vanalingam
  • Apple fires employee who spoke out on workplace issues, cites alleged leak

    larrya said:
    Ashley is about to become very wealthy.
    what makes you say that? she leaked an internal tool to the press and talked about doing it on twitter
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  • Apple employees ask for more flexible remote work options

    Employees working in teams can more easily hide lower productivity as other employees can make up for it. The $180k software engineer mentioned earlier has a twitter feed with over 107,000 tweets over the past few years and has clearly been very active in recent weeks/months. If they are currently working from home, they sure must be spending a lot of that time on twitter and being paid for it
    What a bizarre take. A quick look at her profile shows that she's been on Twitter since 2008, so the 100k tweets is not really that odd, and works in security at Apple as a software engineer. It took me all of about 5 minutes to find she's a principal level engineer on a team of 5, is permanently remote, was actively recruited by Apple, is bipolar, and that her tweeting primarily happens on the weekend. Given that she has 30,000 followers, several of which are other Apple employees, pretty sure if she was sitting in the bath all day tweeting, she'd not have a job anymore. SWEs at that level on a small team are not invisible. She's just a loud feminist in tech who was once doxxed after a revenge porn scandal.

     I think most of you are taking their letter way too seriously. They asked for a survey about remote work, an exit interview question about remote work, disability education, and an environmental impact report. I feel like somehow we all read the same letter, but all of the angry people have terrible reading comprehension.
    muthuk_vanalingam