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maciekskontakt said:

omasou said:

Calamander said:

Brazil put a price on wokeness, good.

Apple is so concerned about the environment they don't include a charger or earphones in their $1,000+ devices. 

At the same time, they make products that can't be repaired and need to be replaced wholesale. Example my XS face ID crystal broke, turns out, that cannot be fixed or replaced. At all. Not by Apple or anyone else. Either you use the phone without, or you throw it away. 

What @wood said is a simple solution but Apple won't do that because they're hypocrites. Apple used to be a good company under Steve Jobs - at that time, critics were saying the same thing. Back then they were not right. Today they are.

I also don't think the environment argument has merit - let's say Apple ships 1000x less chargers, OK, fair enough, but people are going to buy 100x more 3rd party chargers, most of which are way more polluting than what Apple is making in its closely monitored factores, and some of these 3rd party chargers will destroy the iPhones, leading to more waste. i think in the end nothing will have been saved. Except the carbon neutral rating, congratulations, hypocrites! 

 wood1208 said:

Price for Brazil iPhone by default includes charger. If someone don't want it than give deduction/rebate for charger in final price on invoice.

You can always switch to Android. Perhaps the grass is greener over there /s

What is your point? There is no logic in what you suggesting. He wants iPhone with charger - not Android. Can  you have better, more mature recommendations?

For the record, I switched to Android 3 years ago... for reason of Apple and individuals like yourself arrogance. Listening pays off, poor quality screen that does not respond to drier older person finger tips does not. LG at the time defeated both Apple and Samsung with of model I bought. Now, I hear Apple is going to use those LG displays. Well too late for me. I will consider all smartphone options and not only iPhone.

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teejay2012 said:

Apple Pay will remain my payment system regardless. I changed banks when first introduced because 'my' bank was slow to bring it on, as it considered how much it would cost it, rather than how much I would like it. I would change again if any bank forced me to use 'their' method. Earlier as many companies tried to get into the NFC payment systems, it was clear that what they really wanted is to track us and less so the small additional cost to Apple. No thanks... banks. Opening the NFC to others may be a security issue, I have read. I do not understand what it is with EU regulatory bodies on this and the App Store. The EU is ahead of the world on privacy regulations yet seem to target US companies for thin rationales that turn out to not have legal merit aka Irish tax ruling in 2020. If I was cynical, I would say this is about money from fines and trying to level the competition field for non innovative EU companies.

There are plenty of innovative EU companies and plenty of unicorns too but what good is it to be innovative and want to offer a wallet solution if the platform where you could deploy it reserves the NFC hardware for itself and in doing so limits competition. 

You say you are against being forced to use 'their' solution by a company yet that is exactly what Apple is on the hook for here.

Irrelevant.  iPhone is a toaster.  A sealed end-to-end solution.  Developers and banks are not Apple's customers.  People that buy iPhones are Apple's customers, and most of us buy into Apple's ecosystem because Apple is the gatekeeper.  There is choice and competition already, but folks like you continuously tip-toe over it.  You want that kind of openness - as usual - BUY AN ANDROID PHONE!

Only a vocal, loud, whining minority are raising a stink and they are not customers.  They are corporations, and sketchy developers that want to ride the coattails of Apple's work.  They know that there is no money to be made on Android, and iPhone users is where the money is at.  It's not about "competition".  NFC does not "require" that everyone have access to that technology on every product.  

Get over yourself.

You may assume that only the end users are the customers of Apple, but that is not how Apple sees it (looking at the efforts to sell iPhone/iPad/macs to the enterprise), not how the EU sees it and not how the app developers see it.

The EU want a competitive playing field, so that app developers  can compete on merit and continue to innovate.  Apple is not the sole provider of innovation and of security.  The EU wants Apple to open access to the NFC chip.  This has nothing to do with security as Apple claims.  The NFC protocol is standardized. Apple allows connection to NFC for mass transit solutions but not for banking solutions; there is no logical reason for this but anti-competitive behavior.

With the exception of games apps, there is little money to be made by app developers on IOS alone or on Android alone.    App developers cannot neglect a large portion of the potential customer base (iOS or Android).  I am an non game app developer and making an app available on both platforms costs me only 30% more than making it single platform, with about 80% more revenue.