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Trump blinks: Floats suggestion that Apple might get a tariff exemption
Well, you have completely ignored the substance of my comment.9secondkox2 said:
It’s common sense. Something a trump-hatred cult will never see.Stabitha_Christie said:
And the delusional cult continues on unabated, Dear Leader must not be questioned.9secondkox2 said:It’s not a “blink.” It has been mentioned a lot here on ai before the tariffs came on. Apple would get an exemption. I’ve personally posted this a few times.Smart people do smart things. It’s why cook preemptively met with the president prior to the election and why the admin is letting some of the fine tuning show now. It’s always shock and awe to rile up the immoveable players. Then settles into the details. It’s why you hear the phrase/torle “art of the deal” being so talked about lately.As I’ve BEEN saying, Apple willl be fine.
Meanwhile in reality Trump has shown how much of a lame duck president he is and U.S. is much weaker on the world stage than it was a week ago.
And because you pointed out in an other thread that you woefully uninformed on trade, let me help you out. What you and Trumpty Dumpty seem to be missing is Trump can't protect Apple or any other company from China. If China decides to start targeting U.S. companies like Apple or Tesla and just boots them from the country then they are absolutely screwed. The U.S. doesn't have the advanced manufacturing capabilities of China and that is something that would take at least a decade to build out. China does almost all of the world's refining of rare earth minerals. Replacing that capability will take a decade to do. China holds way more cards in this trade war than just tariffs. Turmpty Dumpty has brought a squirt gun to a gun fight.
Maybe, just maybe, ponder the potential consequences of Trumps actions rather than blindly cheerleading for himAnd I’ll take Donald trump and Bessent any day over some dude on the internet named “stabitha.”
But seriously. There are so many ways to look at this. It definitely exposes predispositions. If you already hate Tru p, you’ll work to find the pessimistic angle. If you already like him, you’ll work to find the positive angle. And if you’re just a simple common sense guy, you’ll work to can appreciate what he’s trying to do while retaining the ability to see where it may go wrong - but also retain tje ability to see where it may go right. So far, for common sense folks, tje goal is admirable, results are mixed with the short time in action, and the pivot seems to preserve both the American tech company as well as the inherits of the action to begin with. The downside of all of it is of course the “short term pain” of stock volatility and posdible higher prices. But that was always a known quantity. Not some surprise. But the long term gain of fair trade is what the goal is. And it’s certainly at the very least worth the attempt. If it wasn’t trump, it would be someone else. The status quo is not sustainable without ceding our economy and leading status in the world. As one of the few truly free places in the world, this matters. We are all her for all things apple. They’re a great company. Another reason they're great is that they stand for human rights, privacy, security, etc. on top of making the best stuff on earth. But take away the foundation of freedom upon which they operate and things go south. We see a microcosm in the EU and China. Hopefully, with the bold moves being made on the big stage, that’s as far as it goes.Let's take a step back and start at the beginning, as there is a lot we agree on. So let's look at how the U.S. got into this situation.If you go back to the boom years of the 1940s-1960s, the U.S. was a manufacturing economy, and it served us well. We had a lot of upward mobility. Along the way, we chose to move toward a more services-based economy. We embraced free trade capitalism and let the markets figure it out. And when I say we, I mean our collective decision-making via the democratic process. No individual or party really owns the decisions; the country collectively decided to do these things. During that time, China decided to become a manufacturing economy. To do that, the Chinese government invested in infrastructure and education. It helped companies set up manufacturing in exchange for manufacturing technology. It was playing the long game, but it worked. It is also far easier for an autocratic government to do this because there is no need for consensus. Meanwhile, in the U.S., the transition to services served us well. We saw wealth explode, and we became the world's richest country. Unfortunately, this move left people behind. The areas that lost manufacturing work weren't always able to join in on the services economy explosion. Towns and smaller cities got hit particularly hard. But it is important to know that the U.S. isn't the victim of another country. This was our own decision-making, and China didn't become a manufacturing powerhouse because of tariffs. They did it via investment. And we lost manufacturing through a lack of investment. We opted for tax cuts instead.So where do we as a country want to go? I think most of us can agree that we would like to see a return of manufacturing to the U.S. We would like to see a return to upward mobility for the people left behind. We would like the economic growth that would come with it. There is an argument for national security and self-reliance. No matter your political stripes, I think we all agree those are good things. Trump has stated these things as his goals, and I don't think many people are objecting to the goals. What people are objecting to is how he is trying to achieve those goals.The U.S. doesn't have the infrastructure nor the skilled labor to do manufacturing at a large scale. Building that skill set and infrastructure needs to be done, and it is a long process. China didn't do it overnight. Tariffs have their place in repatriating manufacturing, but they aren't the primary tool in making it happen, and they won't do it alone. It needs to be a comprehensive plan, and everyone needs to be on board with it. It needs to include investments in infrastructure and education. Private capital will have its place, but the movement needs to step up and lead the effort. The U.S. government has more resources than any entity on the planet and is able to do incredible things. Private capital has never been able to make the monumental shifts the government has done. Private equity didn't do rural electrification. Commercial space travel only happened because of the work NASA did. The entirety of the internet economy exists because of the government's ARPANET project. What we need is to start doing investment in education and infrastructure, and as our manufacturing capacity expands, then we offer incentives for companies to start repatriating and investing in manufacturing. Lastly, and this is where tariffs come in, we need to have a stick for when the incentives don't work. Due to the amount of time it is going to take, the plan also needs to be bipartisan; it will need to be continued over multiple presidential administrations and multiple congressional election cycles. Without commitment from both parties, it will just die on the vine as soon as power shifts.This brings up the Trump administration. They have not offered a comprehensive plan. All they have offered is a stick. They have offered no solution for how companies are going to repatriate manufacturing. They haven't even explained what they are going to do with the money they make from the tariffs. So, let's say Apple or any other tech company wants to repatriate its manufacturing immediately. It literally cannot do it. There is nowhere to move it to and there is no skilled workforce to do it. They are 100% on the hook for trying to build out the infrastructure and solve educating the workforce. At a bare minimum, the tariffs needed to be phased in to give companies an opportunity to solve the challenges related to bringing manufacturing back. You can certainly point to exceptions being made, but those just remove the incentive to do anything, and since Trump is in his second term, the best bet is to just ride out the four years and wait for the next guy to come along and just undo all of this. So, the solution requires a long-term plan, investments in education, investments in infrastructure, and it needs to be bipartisan. What Trump is doing is more tax cuts, gutting the Department of Education, gutting the government as a whole, random tariffs that may or may not be happening, and a lack of bipartisanship. Not only is his approach lacking bipartisan support, people in his own party are so against what he is doing that they want to introduce legislation to limit his ability to implement tariffs. The result has been needless economic upheaval, damaging the reputation of the U.S., and the majority of the population being pissed at him. Again, it's not the goals that are the issue; it is the how that is the issue. The how makes no sense and will not accomplish the goals.A good example of how things should work is the CHIPS Act. Through incentives, the government was able to stimulate processor fabrication in the U.S. The whole thing was inciting enough that TSCM is interested in moving fabrication here. It is bipartisan, so companies aren't worried about the incentives being here one day and disappearing the next. That leads to long-term commitments. Was it perfect? No. But it is a good blueprint on how to bring manufacturing back to the U.S., and it does so without crashing markets or chaos in general. This is the kind of thing we should be urging our politicians to do.
TLDR; Trade wars are stupid and accomplish nothing. They shouldn't be our go to. We need to stop acting like we are victim of other countries because we won't acknowledge our own mistakes. Let's just roll up our sleeves and do the hard work needed to bring manufacturing back to the U.S.
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How and where Trump's new tariffs affect Apple
Objectively speaking, the economy during the Biden administration was really strong. 17 million jobs were added, unemployment fell from 6.7% to 4.1%, income was up 19.6%, labor force participation was up, GDP was up and inflation certainly was awful but the Biden administration managed to bring that down with a soft landing. The soft landing was something most economists felt was incredibly unlikely. In fact of all the countries out there, the U.S. had the strongest economic recovery from the pandemic and the that happened under Biden. Also, fun fact, crime was also down over Biden's four years. That that's the actual data and anyone who thinks it is a "total disaster" is either willfully ignorant or dumber than a box of rocks.red oak said:lordjohnwhorfin said:I still can’t believe people voted for this moron. It’s sad to see the pathetic joke this once great country has become.
Right. Because Biden and Kamala were not a corrupt total disaster
GFY
Meanwhile, Trumps actions on tariffs caused the U.S. economy to lose over 2.5 trillion in value today. Losing over two trillion seems like it actually qualifies as a disaster.
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Heavily upgraded M3 Ultra Mac Studio is great for AI projects
So… when I said “this is covered in the video” I literally meant that is was covered in the video. All we have established here is that you haven’t watched the video.blastdoor said:
There are many versions and the 671 billion parameter version is not going to run on anything resembling a standard PC. So I think you just don't know.Stabitha_Christie said:
If that was the intent of your questions then your questions were really poorly worded as buying didn't come up at all.blastdoor said:
My question isn’t the cost to rent but the cost to buy.Stabitha_Christie said:
This was actually covered in the video. You can rent a ton of server time for the cost of a maxed out Mac Studio. So if you are just using it for development or general LLM usage then it really doesn't make sense financially. That said, the maker of the video also gave examples of why it would be worth it to pay to run an LLM locally. Specially when it has to do with privacy.blastdoor said:Even though the Mac Studio with M3 Ultra seems like a great option for LLM usage and development, there is a big drawback in terms of cost.But compared to what? How much would you have to spend to do the same job on a PC?
Anyway, to answer your question, you could build a PC that could to this cheeper than you could buy a Mac Studio. The big deal about Deepseek was that it ran on consumer hardware.blastdoor said:
There are many versions and the 671 billion parameter version is not going to run on anything resembling a standard PC. So I think you just don't know.Stabitha_Christie said:
If that was the intent of your questions then your questions were really poorly worded as buying didn't come up at all.blastdoor said:
My question isn’t the cost to rent but the cost to buy.Stabitha_Christie said:
This was actually covered in the video. You can rent a ton of server time for the cost of a maxed out Mac Studio. So if you are just using it for development or general LLM usage then it really doesn't make sense financially. That said, the maker of the video also gave examples of why it would be worth it to pay to run an LLM locally. Specially when it has to do with privacy.blastdoor said:Even though the Mac Studio with M3 Ultra seems like a great option for LLM usage and development, there is a big drawback in terms of cost.But compared to what? How much would you have to spend to do the same job on a PC?
Anyway, to answer your question, you could build a PC that could to this cheeper than you could buy a Mac Studio. The big deal about Deepseek was that it ran on consumer hardware.
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MagSafe magnets don't interfere with the iPhone 16e C1 modem
Some of y’all seem to have missed some important events over the last few years. Let me catch you up. We have had really high inflation globally. A 128 gig iPhone was 480. If you factor in inflation that is 542 dollars today. So, 57 dollars less than the price of the iPhone 16e. Then you have to factor in that the US just implemented a 10% tariff on Chinese imports. Despite what some people thing that cost is paid by the consumer and not the country the tariff is levied against. 10% of 540 is 54 and that gets you to 594. So the complaining about price is literally complaining about 5 dollars.muthuk_vanalingam said:
I would like to remind you that iPhone 16e is priced about $170 higher than iPhone SE. So, stop whining about people missing MagSafe in iPhone 16e.jayweiss said:I’d like to remind you that the iPhone SE does not have MagSafe either. Please stop whining about it.This is what a plurality of Americans voted for. Congrats to them, they got what they wanted ?!
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Rumor: Apple Intelligence coming to Apple Vision Pro along with more immersive content
I am a fan of the Writing Tools and think they would be a great addition to AVP.jvm156 said:Not to be negative and I love my Vision Pro but Apple intelligence is a big fail for the most part. The only part of it I even use is genmoji and I could care less if that was on my Vision Pro. Until they make Siri a true AI chatbot apple intelligence isn’t selling anything
