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iPhone 17 may have been spotted in the wild
Thanks for being a reasonable voice on this and totally agree that the genie is out of bottle. My question is what doe AppleInsider what to be? Do they want to be a news outlet or a tabloid. Based on Wesley's response the answer is pretty clearly tabloid.macgui said:
I agree. Enabling bad behavior doesn't help. But that's another genie that will never be put back in the bottle. Paparazzi selling their pics to tabloids because the public believes in "their right to know" proves that. This and every other tech news/rumor site operates on much the same way. I doubt that many sites pay for this kind of "news" not that it matters much. So I agree in a better world this wouldn't have happened. We have to make peace the best we can and pick our battles.Stabitha_Christie said:
...I clearly stated it wasn’t illegal but legality doesn’t make it right. People should be able to go out in public without someone photographing them. When you use the photos you are ultimately enabling the behavior. Cool that you didn’t break the law but did y’all make the right choice.Wesley_Hilliard said:
Sorry to say, but the law is quite clear, when in public, it is fair game. While I can't take a photo of someone and use it commercially, there's nothing stopping anyone from taking photos, recording video, or capturing audio of anyone in public.Stabitha_Christie said:I love a good rumor as much as the next person but can we not normalize this kind of behavior? While it isn't illegal to take someone's photo in public is still an invasion of privacy and promoting this kind of thing will only lead to more instances of this kind of thing.
Like I said in the piece, it's not something that's going to be a problem because these kinds of design changes are very rare. Nearly every other prototype iPhone has looked identical to its predecessor with the exception of iPhone X, which was prototyped in a literal brick-sized box IIRC.I wouldn't worry about this becoming a common way to leak iPhone information.
Let's assume this is an actual pic and not AI. Sunglasses knew he'd be the subject of pics if the rumors of his security team are accurate. The whole situation gives me a "staged" feel. Who is he? An Apple employee doesn't seem probably. Why was he photographing the alleged 17 outdoors in what appears to be a public area? Who provided the phone? Is this an Official Apple Leak?
Then there's a question (of me at least) of whether or not as previously mentioned this is an AI generated rendering and not a photo. The third finger of the left hand looks to be obscured by some artifact. Sunglasses' reflection in the 17 looks to me to be at a wrong angle. Sunglasses' sunglasses reflect almost completely different images. That might be explained by a bend in a bridge. That whole situation gives me "fake" feel.
All speculation on my part. You're all free to move about the cabin.
I think you raise interesting questions and the article could have been written and discussion could be had all while respecting the person's privacy. Simply blurring the face would have done the trick.
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iPhone 17 may have been spotted in the wild
Yes, suggesting that we should respectful of people's privacy is really just me being overbearing. What a terrible world it would be if we respected each other.charlesn said:
Stabitha, I hear the Photography Police are actively recruiting. Give it some thought. Seems like you'd be an enthusiastic candidate.Stabitha_Christie said:
Not sure if you missed the point or intentionally avoiding it. I clearly stated it wasn’t illegal but legality doesn’t make it right. People should be able to go out in public without someone photographing them. When you use the photos you are ultimately enabling the behavior. Cool that you didn’t break the law but did y’all make the right choice. This person now has their pictures splattered around the internet. The news value? That there is a new phone and if you put in a giant case no one will see what it looks like? Stop the presses!Wesley_Hilliard said:
Sorry to say, but the law is quite clear, when in public, it is fair game. While I can't take a photo of someone and use it commercially, there's nothing stopping anyone from taking photos, recording video, or capturing audio of anyone in public.Stabitha_Christie said:I love a good rumor as much as the next person but can we not normalize this kind of behavior? While it isn't illegal to take someone's photo in public is still an invasion of privacy and promoting this kind of thing will only lead to more instances of this kind of thing.
Like I said in the piece, it's not something that's going to be a problem because these kinds of design changes are very rare. Nearly every other prototype iPhone has looked identical to its predecessor with the exception of iPhone X, which was prototyped in a literal brick-sized box IIRC.I wouldn't worry about this becoming a common way to leak iPhone information.
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iPhone 17 may have been spotted in the wild
I'd like to refer you to the headline of your article as you seem to be hedging your bets on if it is actually a prototype or not.Wesley_Hilliard said:
Don't want to be photographed? Don't stand in broad daylight with a prototype iPhone in a public area. idk what to tell you.Stabitha_Christie said:
Not sure if you missed the point or intentionally avoiding it. I clearly stated it wasn’t illegal but legality doesn’t make it right. People should be able to go out in public without someone photographing them. When you use the photos you are ultimately enabling the behavior. Cool that you didn’t break the law but did y’all make the right choice. This person now has their pictures splattered around the internet. The news value? That there is a new phone and if you put in a giant case no one will see what it looks like? Stop the presses!Wesley_Hilliard said:
Sorry to say, but the law is quite clear, when in public, it is fair game. While I can't take a photo of someone and use it commercially, there's nothing stopping anyone from taking photos, recording video, or capturing audio of anyone in public.Stabitha_Christie said:I love a good rumor as much as the next person but can we not normalize this kind of behavior? While it isn't illegal to take someone's photo in public is still an invasion of privacy and promoting this kind of thing will only lead to more instances of this kind of thing.
Like I said in the piece, it's not something that's going to be a problem because these kinds of design changes are very rare. Nearly every other prototype iPhone has looked identical to its predecessor with the exception of iPhone X, which was prototyped in a literal brick-sized box IIRC.I wouldn't worry about this becoming a common way to leak iPhone information.
It's really about decency, we have become a culture that just tramples on people's privacy for clicks. Posting the pictures while maintaining the individuals privacy would have been really easy and taken nothing way from the story. What is even stranger is you are doubling down on this and acting like you have no agency. Yes, someone else took the picture but you decided to publish it as is.
Want to be a respected new outlet? Don't act like a TMZ hack. idk what to tell you.
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iPhone 17 may have been spotted in the wild
No, commercial use would be like using it in an advertisement or selling prints. While AppleInsider is a for profit endeavor (or i think it is) they are not making money directly off the picture and they are using it for informational/reporting purposes. It would fall under fair use.bobonet said:
Would this article count as commercial use?Wesley_Hilliard said:
Sorry to say, but the law is quite clear, when in public, it is fair game. While I can't take a photo of someone and use it commercially, there's nothing stopping anyone from taking photos, recording video, or capturing audio of anyone in public.Stabitha_Christie said:I love a good rumor as much as the next person but can we not normalize this kind of behavior? While it isn't illegal to take someone's photo in public is still an invasion of privacy and promoting this kind of thing will only lead to more instances of this kind of thing.
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iPhone 17 may have been spotted in the wild
Not sure if you missed the point or intentionally avoiding it. I clearly stated it wasn’t illegal but legality doesn’t make it right. People should be able to go out in public without someone photographing them. When you use the photos you are ultimately enabling the behavior. Cool that you didn’t break the law but did y’all make the right choice. This person now has their pictures splattered around the internet. The news value? That there is a new phone and if you put in a giant case no one will see what it looks like? Stop the presses!Wesley_Hilliard said:
Sorry to say, but the law is quite clear, when in public, it is fair game. While I can't take a photo of someone and use it commercially, there's nothing stopping anyone from taking photos, recording video, or capturing audio of anyone in public.Stabitha_Christie said:I love a good rumor as much as the next person but can we not normalize this kind of behavior? While it isn't illegal to take someone's photo in public is still an invasion of privacy and promoting this kind of thing will only lead to more instances of this kind of thing.
Like I said in the piece, it's not something that's going to be a problem because these kinds of design changes are very rare. Nearly every other prototype iPhone has looked identical to its predecessor with the exception of iPhone X, which was prototyped in a literal brick-sized box IIRC.I wouldn't worry about this becoming a common way to leak iPhone information.
