Stabitha_Christie

"A new report focuses on user behavior when a smartphone is retired, and illustrates the differences between iPhone owners, and Android users."

Kind of astounding this is the conclusion the author came to when the article has this quote:

"Perhaps the typically lower trade-in values for Android phones makes that a less desirable transaction"

It's not a difference in the users it's a difference in devices. The Android market has a ton of cheap phones that have no resale value after a few years. The only thing they are really good for is recycling or holding on to incase you need a backup device. iPhone hold value so trading them in, reselling them or passing them on to a family/friend makes more sense. 

The behavior is dictated by the devices not a difference in people. If iPhone lost value like low end Android devices you would see the exact same behavior. 

If you are going to review a product at least take the time to learn something about the product. 

The burn bar hasn't been removed. Per Apple:

"The Burn Bar is available for High Intensity Interval Training (HIIT), Treadmill, Cycling, and Rowing workouts."

"The Burn Bar appears 2 minutes into your workout. It displays based on a rolling window and is reflective of your last 2 minutes of work."

The burn bar isn't in your kickboxing workout screenshot because that isn't a workout type that a uses the burn bar. It's also not persistent so it isn't on screen at all times.  You can go into the metrics editor and turn it off.

Fitness+ also didn't do away with the other rings. Activity ring only means you aren't getting data from an Apple Watch. The Fitness app does the same thing if you don't use an Apple Watch. 

fastasleep said:

Stabitha_Christie said:

mike1 said:

sflagel said:

kiowawa said:

foregoneconclusion said:

sflagel said:

Did the old one have this:

Yes, the original HomePod had Bluetooth 5.0. 

I had the impression the Mini version did not have Bluetooth, which made it hard to use for me as I travel a lot and wanted to bring it along without hooking to Hoel wifi.  

Although apparently the large HomePod did have Bluetooth 5.0, you could not use it to play music…. So if someone came to your house with a phone that is not from Apple, they could not share their music. The biggest reason not to get one.

Why would that matter? If they wanted me to hear something, they could just tell the HomePod to play it.

Not really concerned with how my home interacts with visitor's devices.

At some point Apple will stop supporting software updates for HomePods just like they do for every product they make. Once that happens they will become large bricks. Having Bluetooth support for streaming from other devices would allow them to continue being useful. 

I have decade-plus old AirPort Expresses that still work just fine. What makes you think HomePods would get bricked somehow?

I have an old AirPort Express as well and it still works but it's a bit different in that it's functionally isn't dependent on internet based services like the HomePod. The HomePod is more similar to the original AppleTV than the AirPort Express. The AppleTV was made obsolete and over time they stopped connecting to Apple services. They are still usable in limited form. You can still put media on it but it no longer connects to internet based services. It isn't unreasonable to assume that at some point Apple will stop updating the OS of it and overtime the services that it uses (Siri, Apple Music) will be updated and will no longer be supported on the device. I assume it will retain some functionality such as AirPlay but it would be nice if Bluetooth worked as well. 

I kinda suspect that when Apple EOLs the HomePod it will do a software update that opens it up as a bluetooth speaker but what actually happens is anyone's guess. 

mike1 said:

Stabitha_Christie said:

mike1 said:

sflagel said:

kiowawa said:

foregoneconclusion said:

sflagel said:

Did the old one have this:

Yes, the original HomePod had Bluetooth 5.0. 

I had the impression the Mini version did not have Bluetooth, which made it hard to use for me as I travel a lot and wanted to bring it along without hooking to Hoel wifi.  

Although apparently the large HomePod did have Bluetooth 5.0, you could not use it to play music…. So if someone came to your house with a phone that is not from Apple, they could not share their music. The biggest reason not to get one.

Why would that matter? If they wanted me to hear something, they could just tell the HomePod to play it.

Not really concerned with how my home interacts with visitor's devices.

At some point Apple will stop supporting software updates for HomePods just like they do for every product they make. Once that happens they will become large bricks. Having Bluetooth support for streaming from other devices would allow them to continue being useful. 

Not a concern. By the time Apple stops supporting, I will have moved on to something newer, better more capable anyway. I have BT speakers that are 'bricks" because of old batteries. It's a speaker, not a lifetime commitment.

Not a concern for you. Some of us are not fans of wasting money to replace things that are perfectly functional. Speakers can have a fairly long life span, certainly longer than the seven years before Apple obsoletes a product. 

mike1 said:

sflagel said:

kiowawa said:

foregoneconclusion said:

sflagel said:

Did the old one have this:

Yes, the original HomePod had Bluetooth 5.0. 

I had the impression the Mini version did not have Bluetooth, which made it hard to use for me as I travel a lot and wanted to bring it along without hooking to Hoel wifi.  

Although apparently the large HomePod did have Bluetooth 5.0, you could not use it to play music…. So if someone came to your house with a phone that is not from Apple, they could not share their music. The biggest reason not to get one.

Why would that matter? If they wanted me to hear something, they could just tell the HomePod to play it.

Not really concerned with how my home interacts with visitor's devices.

At some point Apple will stop supporting software updates for HomePods just like they do for every product they make. Once that happens they will become large bricks. Having Bluetooth support for streaming from other devices would allow them to continue being useful.