Stabitha_Christie

One one the great accomplishments of American capitalism has been convincing the country to be anti-labor. 

auxio said:

Stabitha_Christie said:

JP234 said:

This is sure to bring out the trolls, claiming they will never buy another iPad.

But at this point, who needs the audio jack anyway? You have legacy earbuds? Get new ones. Get Bluetooth ones. Or buy a cheapo adapter. You say the audio quality is too low over Bluetooth? Well, you should be using a high end stereo system, that has both the 35mm and 1/4" audio jacks, not an iPad.

People that work with audio. I will use my iPad Pro for recording keyboard, guitar/bass and drums. The latency with Bluetooth is too high and can't be used to for monitoring what you are recording. So I end up having to use the built in speakers. That Apple has GarageBand on the iPad and this limitation is kind of a bummer. I also get that the people that do what I am doing are in the minority and Apple isn't going to keep the headphone jack for us. Side note, there is a group of people that complain that Logic and FCPX aren't on the iPad.... there is your answer. Both would be gimped by the lack of headphone jack.

Anyone who seriously works with audio buys a digital audio I/O interface. While Apple's mini jack is better than most when it comes to shielding against noise from interference, the quality still isn't nearly as good as a separate audio interface. Combine that with the fact that you can't separate your tracks (so you have to record each one individually if you want to bring them into another audio editor/mixer, taking far more time), and it's really only people who dabble with music production who used it.

Now on the other hand, DJs who used to split the audio output into separate mono channels for mixing are REALLY upset about this... 

Sigh, I saw this one coming. People that are "serious" use the tools that work best for them. I use my iPad in a similar way to how a person would have used a 4-track. It's any easy way to start catering ideas, it's super portable and it has long battery life.

As for your points:

1. People buy dedicated I/O interface. Yes, and I have one for my guitar/bass that connects to the iPad. 
2. Audio quality: When it comes to recording I don't care what the sound quality of the click track is. I also don't need high quality audio to work on an arrangement, or to lay down additional tracks. 
3. You can't separate your tracks: Huh? GarageBand supports up to 256 tracks. I'm not sure how it takes longer to record individual tracks on an iPad. I can't currently play more than instrument at a time so recording individual tracks is how I record no matter if I'm using an iPad or a Mac. 
4. It's really only for people that dabble: Gorillaz recorded an entire album on an iPad. There are also no shortage of artists that have recoded songs on iPads or iPhones. Other than being objectively incorrect, you argument has another problem. You are basically saying hobbyist should matter as customers That is just goofy. 

There is a saying, "Those who say it cannot be done should not interrupt those doing it."

Anyway, my points stands. People working with audio would benefit form the headphone jack. Is it insurmountable or a deal breaker? No, but that wasn't the question asked. 

JP234 said:

This is sure to bring out the trolls, claiming they will never buy another iPad.

But at this point, who needs the audio jack anyway? You have legacy earbuds? Get new ones. Get Bluetooth ones. Or buy a cheapo adapter. You say the audio quality is too low over Bluetooth? Well, you should be using a high end stereo system, that has both the 35mm and 1/4" audio jacks, not an iPad.

People that work with audio. I will use my iPad Pro for recording keyboard, guitar/bass and drums. The latency with Bluetooth is too high and can't be used to for monitoring what you are recording. So I end up having to use the built in speakers. That Apple has GarageBand on the iPad and this limitation is kind of a bummer. I also get that the people that do what I am doing are in the minority and Apple isn't going to keep the headphone jack for us. Side note, there is a group of people that complain that Logic and FCPX aren't on the iPad.... there is your answer. Both would be gimped by the lack of headphone jack.

The Studio Display and XDR Display lack ProMotion because Thunderbolt 3 doesn't have the bandwidth to do both 5k+ and 120 Hz refresh rate. You either have to do below 5k or lower the refresh rate. Given that, this new display is likely not going to sit between the Studio and XDR and have ProMotion 

Wcitizen said:

sevenfeet said:

Wcitizen said:

Apple may call it Ultra but it’s by no mean a Pro watch. There’s still a world of difference between what the Apple Watch is able to do to support more extreme sports and activities and a true Pro watch such as a Garmin Fénix 7 or even an Amazfit T-Rex 2. And I’m saying this as a very, very long and passionate Apple user that already owned two Apple watches. The “Ultra” industrial design is only slightly better than the original design in dealing with impacts but it’s still far from the robustness that you need with a Pro watch. Sturdiness is not only about the materials used but also about the form. Battery life is another detail that is so far from what you can currently get on a Garmin or Amazfit top of the line watches (which can last for at least two weeks).

I realize that there are still extreme applications that the Apple Watch Ultra might not be applicable for. The T-Rex 2 is a far more cost effective solution ($299) and since it's not really a proper smart watch, it can last a lot longer. A more apt comparison would be the Garmin watch. That costs $699 and has a host of extreme sports features, some that the Apple Watch Ultra can do, some of which are still exclusive to that device. And the Garmin can do limited recharge via solar cells in the design, a useful feature.

But for me, the biggest "Holy Crap" moment was that they went ahead and built a proper dive computer watch. As someone who has been scuba diving for 25 years and my wife and teenage daughter also dive, this is a game changer. I've been looking to buy a new dive computer to replace one I've been carrying for two decades. I think I finally have the one I want. But there are some questions I have. Will it account for Nitrox or Tri-ox diving? Can you attach a radio control to determine the amount of air in your tanks (some of the better dive computers have this)? And I'm sure some more frequent dive masters and instructors will have more questions. I just got a Series 7 a year ago, so my watch isn't old. But one with a dive computer may be too good to pass up, especially since that's the amount of money I was looking to spend anyway.

Allow me to correct you. Both the T-Rex 2 and Garmin Fenix 7 are proper smart watches, fully compatible with the iPhone, and whose main limitations such as replying a message are mostly imposed by Apple. And regarding sport activities both watches offer way more features and sports than the Apple Watch.
I still love the overall experience of the Apple Watch but after two cracked Apple Watch screens damaged by ridiculous scenarios such has fallen from a table to the ground or having the screen completely separating from the body if it has been laser cut, without Apple doing nothing to solve the problem, I seriously doubt of the robustness of the Apple Watch Design. You can attest how wrong the industrial design of the Apple Watch is when you start to look at the thousands of protective cases for it being sold at Amazon.

I do triathlon and for my decade plus of doing so I mostly used Garmin watches (as well as cycling computer and power meter). I have phased out my use of Garmin stuff and gave up the final watch in 2019. The Apple Watch has yet to hit parity with the Garmin watches but has narrowed the gap. Being able to do custom workouts in the upcoming WatchOS is going to be a huge step in closing the gap on my wishlist. I think I am down to just wanting power meter support for the bike. Anyway the point is I agree that the Apple Watch doesn't do everything that Garmin does. I think "way more" is over stating it but that is a minor quibble. So why did I give up Garmin? The answer is pretty easy, their software is sh!t and is only getting worse. I got tired of fighting with the watches to get them to work properly. I got tired of randomly waiting up to 20 minus for GPS to connect. I got tired of watches randomly rebooting mid workout. I got tired of poorly designed interfaces. Do you remember when Garmin Connect got hacked and we all lost the cloud based features for days? My right Vector pedal would randomly disconnect and I'd lose power data..... the list just goes on. Garmin is great a great feature list on paper but their products are just crap and were inexplicably getting worse. I'll the take the lessor device that actually works. Working might be the most important "Pro" feature.