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DAalseth said:

Analyst Ming-Chi Kuo believes that that to date, investors have overestimated customers' actual desire and demand for mixed and virtual reality headsets
True that.

True that.

However I feel that what they need isn’t a slick new device from Apple, they need a reason to have one. Gaming? Not really, while there’s some hard core gamers, casual games are a much bigger slice of the market and they don’t need one. Business? Not really, there are a FEW specialized fields that might benefit, the adoption is going to be slow, and most businesses have no use for them. Movies? Not hardly, even watching at home people like to socialize, not be walled off in their own little private theatre. 

It’s really cool tech, but nobody has made a case for why every person should have one. Or even every household, or the vast majority of people. I’ve played with VR, and AR systems. They are cool as heck, but cool is not a use case. Cool is not a need.

I think it's important to separate AR and VR.    You're right that there are really no 'killer apps' for VR that millions of customers would flock to.  But I don't understand why you glom AR into the same bucket.  There are literally millions of potential use cases for AR in everyday life.  Take me, for example: I have two CS degrees and consider myself pretty smart - but I can't remember peoples' names for the life of me.  Other than relatives and friends I regularly see, I draw a blank with names whenever I meet an acquaintance.  It often leads to awkward moments.  It would be a pretty trivial application of AR to show a name label above the heads of the people I meet.  Even mundane existing functions that currently exist on smartphones would become better.  E.g. notifications showing up in front of you so there's no need to look down at your smartwatch or pull your phone out of the pocket.  My iPhone has been able to give me walking directions forever.  But who wants to hold a phone in front of them while walking?  Staring at my watch for directions is only slightly better.  Walking directions that simply show you an arrow to the left/right in your field of vision whenever you need to make a turn would make walking navigation completely painless.

I don't know what Apple's plans are for AR glasses.  Whatever might show up this year will not be AR glasses, that's for sure.  And if the rumors of why AR glasses keep getting delayed are to be believed - that Apple can't yet fit the needed processing power into regular size glasses - then I think Apple is taking the wrong approach.  If, instead of insisting AR glasses should be standalone devices, they'd make it a partner device to the iPhone, then the AR glasses would not have to carry the heavy processing burden it otherwise has to!  It would definitely be possible with today's technology to have regular sized AR glasses if those glasses only projected images provided by the phone and sent data captured from its sensors/cameras to the phone for processing.  Any other approach is simply not feasible with current battery tech.

Andrew_OSU said:

Heya friend. So to be clear, I've been using the S7 MaxV Ultra since it launched, which was in April of 2022. Nearly an entire year. Never once has my S7 gotten stuck or stuck. Well, one time it did get stuck because my wife had a new curtain in the bathroom that was too long and it had big tassels that got inadvertently sucked up. As soon as I saw the alert on the map, I knew exactly what had happened. I fixed our curtain and never had an issue again.

I also don't have any of those issues with my map. I haven't ever had to rebuild it and it still gets full coverage in my home. That's with my wife rearranging furniture and lots of dog/baby toys lying around. Im not sure why you are having such peculiar issues. My map has only gotten better as it collected more data and the rooms started to take better shape from the initial scans. I also have two floor-to-ceiling windows and a sliding door that never gave us any hassle. I'm so confused at why you're having these problems.

I draw issue with your insinuation that I didn't spend enough time with the S8, or the S7 for that matter. I've used the S8 for perhaps a couple months now and haven't had any issues you describe, but I did have a good experience with the S7.

For the mop question, it has the same bottom as the S7. You can't remove the entire mopping attachment, just the mop pad. At least on the S7 MaxV Ultra and the S8 Pro Ultra. They may be different the entry-level models.

Hi Andrew, I didn't mean to insinuate anything - I was just trying to point out that most reviews are done as soon as a new model comes out so reviewers, trying to be current, usually review devices after only a short amount of use.

With respect to my troubles with floor-ceiling windows: both the Roborock S5 Max and the S7 MaxV (which is not the base model - it's the Ultra minus the base) have trouble with those.  My windows end a 1/4" above the floor with a 1/4" thick, 6" deep sill.  I wish I could show you my map, but the robot basically thinks the room continues beyond the glass and always climbs onto the sill trying to get out.  All the up/down movements from the sill has led to scuff marks, so I had to put an invisible wall on that section.  A similar thing happens with the slider door tracks: the robot tries to get onto them and sometimes the wheel gets stuck in the groove and it can't get out.

With regards to the mop: on the S7 MaxV, there are two tabs on each side of the wate reservoir which allows you to slide out a half-elliptical piece of plastic that has the mop pad attached.  You then slide the mop pad off that piece of plastic.  Perhaps you consider the 'mop pad' to be both the cloth plus the piece of plastic?

I was a very happy customer of the Roborock S5 Max.  It did an excellent job cleaning and, more importantly, after initial setup never had an issue.

Two years later, I was wooed by the Roborock S7 MaxV's suction power - supposedly twice my S5's.  I didn't want any part of the auto-emptying, auto-mop-cleaning dock since the former simply meant you'd have to start buying bags for the robot (cleaning out the onboard dust bin is simple and requires no bag) and the latter meant more mechanicals that could go wrong and, potentially, a stinky mop.  Anyway, to each their own when it comes to the dock.

Robot reviews are great in that you get to see the features of a robot.  But reviewers rarely spend enough time with the robot to give long-term feedback on these devices.  The reviews for the S7 were great - just like this review for the S8.  But they didn't help discover any of the shortcomings that reveal themselves over time.

For me, the S7 MaxV has been a lot more hassle than its predecessor.  I really don' know why - it has a lot more sensors than the S5 did - but the robot gets lost or stuck on a regular basis.  It usually happens after a few weeks - not right off the bat.  I am pretty sure it's some sort of software bug: I've noticed that over time, the map starts deteriorating: it starts showing little non-existent artifacts (like dark grey dots and lines that the robot avoids but which don't exist as anything real in the house) - and walls that were previously pretty perpendicular to one another start skewing one direction or the other.  As a result, the robot begins making nonsensical decisions about where to go - or try to go as the case may be.  I've contact Roborock about this on numerous occasion, but their stock answer is that I should delete the map and let the robot recreate it.  And this is what I'm forced to do periodically - and it's annoying as heck.  Mostly because the earlier version of the Roborock had none of these issues, but also because my house is one of those "open concept" houses where some rooms - e.g. kitchen, dining room, family room - aren't distinct rooms as far as the robot is concerned.  So you have to manually divide up the space in the app - a laborious activity in the app consisting of dividing and combining things successively.  Then there are the floor-ceiling windows or sliders that, without manually creating "invisible walls" the robot constantly runs into (and gets stuck at when there's also a sliding door track).  So it takes a good half hour of time every time I have to recreate the map because the Robot f*&ked up the map again :-(

I love the fact that the S7's mop works better than the S5's and that the quiet mode is indeed pretty quiet and lets us run the robot every day.  I'm not sure that our all-hard floor house needed the extra suction power of the S7 - and combined with the map headaches I've been having, I would not have upgraded from the S5 had I known this up-front.  I'm glad the reviewer thinks the S8 is a good upgrade from the S7 - he must have never had the mapping errors I saw - or he's recommending the S8 because they fixed them there?

Another question for the reviewer: in the video you seem to indicate that with the S8 you can only remove the cloth mop?  In the S7 the whole plastic piece the mop attaches comes out - which is very helpful because it means you don't have to turn over the robot every time you want to put a new mop cloth on.  When I mop with the S7, I put a new mop cloth on for every room I have it mop.  If that's no longer possible with the S8, that's a definite negative - unless you get the S8 Ultra, which supposedly cleans the mop cloth for you.

JP234 said:

We have a Roomba, and have found it to be virtually useless. Can't get in corners, gets lost and spins around in a circle, vacuums the same spot over and over until we pick it up and move it. And it has never, ever been able to dock itself and charge. It has to be manually put back in place. It's the dustiest appliance we own, from disuse. Did I mention that it is loud and annoying when in use?

Maybe this ultra-expensive and HUGE alternative would perform better, but at $1,599, we'll just do as we have: get out the broom, dust mop, vacuum or Swiffer, and do it manually. The peace and quiet of manual cleaning is restful compared to motorized cleaning devices like this, or landscaping power tools.

Not exactly sure what your point is -  the Roborock doesn't have any of the issues you have with your Roomba.  Also, the $1599 price tag is for the version that has that HUGE docking station - if you buy the regular Roborock, it's no larger than your current Roomba and probably isn't priced any higher either.  In other words, stop comparing apples and oranges to justify your decision.

I wouldn't call that "big interest" - maybe "some interest"!  But I guess that wouldn't serve the same click function :-(  The author should also be using the word "if" rather than "when" to describe Apple's future iPhone direction vis a vis a foldable.  I think for Apple customer to embrace a foldable iPhone, two things must hold: (1) the out-of-pocket experience must be just as good as it is today - i.e. as soon as you pull the iPhone out of your pocket or purse, you should be able to use it; no unfolding required. (2) the folded phone's folded dimensions should not be much bigger than today's iPhone.  The 14 Pro Max is already at the limits of what a jeans pocket or small purse can accommodate - no self respecting Apple customer would walk around with a thick brick.

I think the only way (1) can be accomplished is if the screens are on the outside of the device - a smaller outside screen + big screen inside will not provide enough functionality in folded mode.