lu99ke

coolfactor said:

lu99ke said:

TenApplesUpOnTop said:

This is going to be an unmitigated security disaster brought to you by hand-wringing do-nothing self-important politicians egged on by useless "regulate Apple because they don't do things the way I think the should" Android lusers.

Nobody who uses the iPhone wants this. All the whining is coming from people who claim Apple "doesn't allow choice", yet were somehow able to choose a competing platform.

So I guess you believe that Mac OS is an "unmitigated security disaster?" 

I also guess, given your steadfast dedication to only using OS's that are NOT "unmitigated security disasters" for allowing side-loading, you only use Chrome OS as a desktop OS given you cannot "load" apps on to it ( unless of course you enable Linux ). 

PS - I use an iPhone and I definitely want this... just saying. 

PPS - Lusers... I can see what you did there... very clever... sort of.... well... actually, no, not at all.  

A few points.

• Hackers and malware "creators" tend to focus on the most rewarding targets. Windows was that, and iOS is, too. Mac, not so much.
• Users can't be trusted to keep themselves safe. No matter what Apple does to create a safe experience, average users will eventually install malware and then blame Apple.
• There's a well-understood principle in computer science — the more convenience there is, the less security there is.

Yep - agree that hackers target most rewarding targets.... general distribution % have iOS at around 17% worldwide and Mac OS at about 7%... so yes iOS larger but Mac OS is still big enough for there to be an enticing target... and the fact remains Apple manages security within that system just fine without any security hysteria. 

Apple's steadfast refusal to open iOS is NOT about security / safety. Yes, their "safety / security" mantra is worth something in terms of brand value and their ability to sell to the "safety" market... but, let's be fair, it's not a hell of a lot. Their brand is about product and brand appeal and "it just works" ( and they do that very well )  Neither of which have anything really to do with side loading an app. Their refusal is about one thing - them making money from the iOS App store... and any effort to argue that is simply futile. 

The "argument" that users will "blame Apple" and therefore somehow diminsh the brand to a point they "lose" money is extremely tenuous.........it just does not happen... think of all the people you know that have had their computers hacked or been scammed? How many blame the platform? Not one that I know of has blamed windows, Mac OS or Android for being scammed ( or gmail or outlook or Adobe or Samsung or Lenovo or HP etc etc ) 

Question - If their platform was so secure and that is why they are protecting it, why would they allow / need Norton, Avast et al to have security "apps" on the iOS store? If the platform was so safe and thus needed to be protected, shouldn't these types of apps be pointless? And maybe they actually are? But if they are, why would they have allow them on there and allow people to subscribe to them? Why? Because they make money out of that subscription, that's why. So either they are allowing people to spend money on something they don't need and taking some of that money for themselves OR their system is already insecure enough that a security app is of benefit to customers, so the argument about preventing sideloading apps is already moot... either way, it's kinda damning from Apple's perspective. 

Am I against Apple making money? Absolutely not... and they make money very well.... and they make beautiful products and market them extremely well......but this is not about the customer's safety / security. It's about money. It is as simple as that. Any argument that Apple's driver is customer safety is misguided or naive. 

Ultimately, they held out for as long as they could ( understandably so ) but the EU has called them out and deemed they need to offer a more open experience if they want to trade in that market. ( likewise removal of lightning ) 

TenApplesUpOnTop said:

This is going to be an unmitigated security disaster brought to you by hand-wringing do-nothing self-important politicians egged on by useless "regulate Apple because they don't do things the way I think the should" Android lusers.

Nobody who uses the iPhone wants this. All the whining is coming from people who claim Apple "doesn't allow choice", yet were somehow able to choose a competing platform.

So I guess you believe that Mac OS is an "unmitigated security disaster?" 

I also guess, given your steadfast dedication to only using OS's that are NOT "unmitigated security disasters" for allowing side-loading, you only use Chrome OS as a desktop OS given you cannot "load" apps on to it ( unless of course you enable Linux ). 

PS - I use an iPhone and I definitely want this... just saying. 

PPS - Lusers... I can see what you did there... very clever... sort of.... well... actually, no, not at all.