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Marvin said:

AppleInsider said:

In Sunday's "Power On" newsletter for Bloomberg, Mark Gurman offers that the Apple Vision Pro is "more of a preview of the future than the future itself. It's too heavy and cumbersome, the battery life is far too short, and there aren't enough dedicated apps." Gurman adds there are more bugs in visionOS that you'd expect from an Apple product, "even a first-generation one."

These issues are not all that important. Having a personal cinema at the level of quality AVP offers and intuitive enough to setup and use by most people is enough of a selling point. The only issue AVP has just now is the high price point. Even if it was lightweight, had longer battery and more apps, $3500 (4x iPad Pro) is too much for most people to invest in.

Reviewers have all said they don't see pixels so 4K displays are enough for the foreseeable future and the display cost will fall. The passthrough camera quality was lower than expected for some people so that will need better exterior cameras. Current M2 is 5nm, if they can get the power down to half at the same performance (M4-M5), they may be able to cut the fans and fan motors, which would allow significant reduction in form factor and weight.

Reducing build cost from $1700 -> $1200 would bring retail price down to $2499. $1499 would be a very accessible price point but difficult for Apple to reach as long as they stick with high margins. If they can aim for $1999, that would allow refurbs and used items to get under $1500. If AVP 2 can hit $2499, old AVP 1 models will drop below $2k.

A lot of people would happily buy a used AVP 1 under $2k just for watching movies, browsing the web, looking at photos. The capability of AVP 1 already justifies a purchase, most people just don't have this much disposable income.

 

pjvalencia said:

Blah blah blah. What can you actually do with them that makes them worthy of their price?

radarthekat said:

MplsP said:

Xed said:

I don't see that. I'd liken it to being more like the original Mac launch since it's very expensive with most people still wondering what they could possibly do with this bleeding edge tech. 

agreed. The iPhone was the right product coming into a waiting hole in the market. Virtual reality and augmented. Reality is still trying to find its place and a use and such Apple has much more of an uphill climb with Vision Pro. By all accounts it’s an extraordinarily well-designed product. I just hope there’s a market for it.

Agree, with one caveat.  The iPhone came into a nascent Apple ecosystem with tens of millions of Mac users and maybe 150-200 million iPod users.  Vision Pro is joining a world with 2.2 billion active Apple devices and a gigantic library of existing apps.  Its challenge to reach critical mass is eased a bit by this fact.  Countered, of course, by its far more narrow scope of use cases and its physical challenge of being a relatively bulky headset.  But the installed base of Apple devices and the wide variety of existing apps will help.