tech_traveller

22july2013 said:

nubus said:

22july2013 said:

If the EU persists in this, Apple could separate its App Store into two different App Stores:
* one in the EU where only EU developers could upload code, and
* one for the rest of the world where the rest of the world could sell there software.
Nobody from the EU could sell apps in the worldwide store, and nobody from outside the EU could sell apps in the EU store.

Apple wouldn't be able to earn 30% on apps from EU developers and Apple would block Google, MS, Facebook etc. from the iPhone in 27 countries and make iPhone less interesting to EU customers due to reduced number of apps. How would Apple benefit from any of that?

So you think it's better for Apple to do anything that the EU ever demands?

All of the new regulations are made for the benefit of customers, not any company.

One other fact is, this law is to be enforced upon all companies, why is it Apple is making the biggest stink? Maybe they have gotten too used to the American government ignoring them, or the American people being fanboys, that they find anything else extraordinary.

chasm said:

If Apple had not always held this opinion of the separate app stores, the EU would probably be right to overrule them.

But because they have indeed set up five separate App Stores, with VERY different requirements (from a developer perspective) for products, the EU should properly rule as they did with the OSes — they are five distinct OSes, even if they are all extrapolated from UNIX.

I am old enough to remember back when TRS-80s could run NEWDOS, which was a wholly different OS than TRSDOS, but fundamentally they did the same thing: control the computer and run apps. They were even written in the same language.

This is the same idea again, and I think the EU should rule in Apple’s favour.

Open the app store, on any Apple device, and open an app, there is a section that shows which Apple devices support the particular app. Seems that it's just one app store on multiple platforms.

Apple has always maintained them as a single App store( same logo, name etc.) that isn't the case for their various operating systems, each of them has a unique name and is marketed differently.

For most of the past couple centuries, British companies have been a key instrument in their efforts to colonize the world. It's ironic that they are the ones regulating corporations now.

Also, the EU being a collection of countries gives it more power to actually demand things from corporations. There is a high chance that Apple would leave the UK if it becomes too hostile.

The market share for iPhones and Androids is around 50-50( not exactly sure of the number but iPhones aren't as prevalent as in the US, mostly due to no lock in effect such as iMessage), even Japan, with 90% of the population using iPhones is more valuable to Apple.

Does it really matter?

Stabitha_Christie said:

tech_traveller said:

Probably isn't going to be so special if you have to worry so much about negative reviews.

Regardless, this device will probably be well received, but it wouldn't be an iPhone replacement. Not for the next decade.

What a strange comment. Apple isn’t promoting Vision Pro as an iPhone replacement. So yeah, it’s not going to be an iPhone replacement it also won’t replace the Apple Watch, your car, oven and shower. 

Many people on this forum and Reddit are considering this device to be the one which replaces iPhones, just like iPhones did for iPods cutting off Microsoft's chance before the Zune could even compete, they hope the same will happen to Android based phones. I made the comment addressing that mentality about it, history isn't going to repeat this instance.

In my opinion it's going to be a separate niche category and isn't going to replace phones anytime soon, though it heavily depends upon the advancement of the technology.