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Fred257 said:

All I would like is better dictation and a little more control over my apps using my voice.  I had a Pixel 6 and it did all of this flawlessly.  That was 4 years ago 

This is why the upgraded Siri debacle is so embarrassing and devastating.  It just shows how Apple cannot multitask but just cycle through a couple of products at a time.

What this Friday meeting missed is any discussion about the lack of accountability inside the company.  And, they couldn't help themselves and had to "brag" how upgraded Siri is a "bigger upgrade than envisioned".  <rolling eyes>  They are still trying to use it to push sales, but since it wasn't advertised at 2025 WWDC, they can't be sued over it.  People, don't fall for it and wait until it is actually released.  And, even then since there will be massive bugs in it, you might as well wait for the iPhone 18 with its 16Gb RAM, which will run AI much better anyways.

Tim Crook needs to be fired.

Wesley's article is a wandering mess. and has the feel of an Apple fanboy, which we all are to some extent.

I would certainly differentiate Apple's previous "machine learning" with its neural chip vs. "Apple Intelligence".  I think the article conflates the two, and perhaps, I'm making more of a distinction than there really is.  The reason I differentiate between the two is that the former is really more behind the scenes, and Apple has been dedicating time, effort, and money to developing it.  However, the latter is what Apple came up when it realized how utterly behind it was on AI because Giannandrea was disconnected from the industry's emphasis on LLMs , which is why Siri never evolved.  So, the leadership scrambled and came up with "Apple Intelligence" to make a more overt attempt at pushing "AI" to users.  Mind you, the latter is what Apple sold the public on; pundits did not push their opinions or wishes; Apple advertised those Apple Intelligence features.  And, it delivered junk and even failed to deliver the debacle that is "smarter Siri".  Furthermore, "Apple's strategy in the space is to get out of the way and offer the technology in ways that enhance the user experience without always shouting that it is an AI feature" is exactly the former "machine learning" strategy.  However, again, the public is expecting the more overt AI interactions, which is why I believe there needs to be a distinction between "machine learning" and "Apple Intelligence".  Apple did well with the former but utterly failed to anticipate the latter.

eightzero said:

Please tell me that this isn't because Apple wants to ram (!) AI down our collective throats. Could we please just have non-AI OS support for these machines?

If your computer is going to have support dropped, look at OpenCore Legacy Patcher (step-by-step instructions at: http://intego.com/mac-security-blog/how-to-keep-older-macs-secure-a-geeky-approach/ ).  This is incredible work done by these developers to get the most current Apple MacOS on legacy hardware.   

To address eightzero's point, Sequoia 15.5 is installed on my iMac 2015 (with OCLP) with every feature except for Apple Intelligence because my CPU does not have any neural cores.  You have to a little patience as things take a little longer to boot up :-) , but it is certainly very useable and responsive once loaded.

AppleZulu said:

This starts to perhaps support my argument that the home hub itself will be a screen-less, stationary box, like Apple TV, that will provide centralized computational power to enable AI on all home-networked devices, including HomePods, TVs and dedicated home control screens. The J490 screens described here would be comparatively inexpensive portable terminals, networked to the hub. Wall mounts (and other mount options) would give the screens a powered home base, with the idea that a home would have multiple screens distributed to key locations. 

Having a truly Apple-like Apple Home where it all “just works” depends on reliable and convenient user control available throughout the home. HomePods offer distributed voice control, but convenient hands-on control has thus far included the common inconvenience of the user having left their iPhone or iPad elsewhere in the home. Wall-mounted terminal screens inexpensive enough to own a few resolve that problem. 

I certainly hope Apple is not planning on wall-mounted terminal screens.  That would look like the Control-4 screen controls that the previous owners of my house had installed ~10 years ago.  I'm sure they were "state of the art" at the time, but they did not age well.  When I remodel the home, I had them ripped out and drywalled the openings (as well as the old telephone ports).  Technology advances quickly, so nothing should be wall mounted.  They become obsolete and are more difficult to update.  Furthermore, the manufacturer (ie Apple) is locked into a certain device size.  Is Apple going to expect home owners to make wall openings bigger or smaller with every iteration?  Is Apple going to keep the power cable at the exact same location forever?  Is Apple is going expect home owners to be running electrical and ethernet cables for every device?  If Apple does produce such a device, then we know that Apple employees clearly don't use their company's own products and don't help consumers think through the implications of their decisions.  

MonkeyT said:

Mr Six Bankruptcies is now making decisions for one of the most successful business in history.  Great.

You and I may not agree with it, but there is nothing wrong with using the system to your advantage.  (I'm sure you never speed and pay every dollar in taxes that you are supposed to since you are a very upstanding citizen.)  I'm not saying this is how I would conduct my own affairs, but it was legal, and he used the system.

Obviously, banks have no problems with it because they keep lending him money and are happy to do so.

P.S.  If only the US government were run like a business.....