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Apple's AI rollout leaves Siri behind & long-time fans are asking questions
MassiveAttack said:No interview with John Gruber, but a ridiculous interview with iJustine..... How clueless.
Apple recently published the paper "The Illusion of Thinking" that neither LRMs nor LLMs reason with accuracy when tasks get very complicated.
Apple has a decent team of researchers. I still believe that Apple has user data as Apple works with major hospitals to analyze user health data from AppleWatch.
WWDC 2025 was just an underwhelming event. The most exciting event was just the Apple Developer event for Foundation Models framework.
Meet the Foundation Models framework - WWDC25 - Videos - Apple Developer
If I'm right, Apple is brilliant and they're on the completely correct course with this. Basically, you use the local model for 90% of queries (most of which will not be user queries, they will be dead-simple tool queries!), and then you have a per-user private VM running a big LLM in the user's iCloud account which the local LLM can reach out to whenever it needs. This keeps the user's data nice and secure. If OpenAI gets breached, Apple will not be affected. And even if a particular user's iCloud is hacked, all other iCloud accounts will still be secure. So this is a way stronger security model and now you can actually train the iCloud LLM on the user's data directly, including photos, notes, meeting invites, etc. etc. The resulting data-blob will be a honeypot for hackers and hackers are going to do everything in the universe to break in and get it. So you really do need a very high level of security. Once the iCloud LLM is trained, it will be far more powerful than anything OpenAI can offer because OpenAI cannot give you per-user customization with strong security guarantees. Apple will have both.
Instead of promoting that, Apple just announces some funny jokes with UX/UI designs..
Get a decent Product Guy.. Tim is a wrong one. Greg is just a Marketing guy who has no clue anyway. Eddy Cue and Phil Schiller are just silent.
Bring a decent Product Guy. -
Law firm sees opportunity to sue over Apple delaying Siri improvements
9secondkox2 said:Stupidest thing I e ever heard. There’s no “improvement” button just sitting on a desk somewhere being criminally neglected.No one is forced legally to make the best product out there. If so, Google and Microsoft wouldn’t exist.Frivolous lawsuit.Sometimes something just doesn’t work out - especially when you’re trying to do things ethically and not spying on your users all the time. -
Trump's 25% smartphone tariff starts just in time for the iPhone 17
Chock_Mossley said:MassiveAttack said:mike_galloway said:MassiveAttack said:randominternetperson said:I'm going to so be pissed and relieved when, in the near future, Trump "suspends" this one and the price of AAPL surges back. Pissed because the profit all his insider-trader cronies will make; relieved because I have so much invested in AAPL.
I wish I were so confident that his corruption outweighs his idiocy that I could afford to put my money where my mouth is (by acting like an insider trader knowing he's going to orchestrate a market boost for AAPL soon). Instead I'm just going to keep holding on and ride out the Trump chaos.
Take a valuation. PE (FWD) x28. Single low digit growth while MSFT. META, AMZN, NVDA deliver double digit growth to justify their high PE (FWD).
Why should AAPL surge with their timid revenue growth? LOL.
AAPL is under pressure. AI is cooked. Even John Siracusa wants Tim to step down in his recent article "Turnaround".
But Apple fanboys don´t want to listen that AAPL is under pressure.
Have fun with tiny upgrades from year to year and you pay way more for iPhones.
AAPL is and remain the worst performer by end of this year. AAPL can´t surge. This rotten stock can stay low for awhile.I agree with you - Trump need to be allowed the time to destroy all American companies (a good start with Apple) in his own special way so the rest of the world can move on without America being a constant pain in the you know where.
It has nothing to do with Trump tbh.
Wearables sales are declining. It is hardly Trump fault.
Apple Intelligence is Apple Incompetency. Their on device AI has failed so far. But give Apple one year to fix it although I highly doubt they can fix it.
Their sales decline + Apple has lost their dominance in China. All these things have happened before Trump era.
And people justfy that AAPL will outperform? LOL .
For long term investors, yes.. But you could also say to NVDA, Walrmart, Nike etc. that they should be fine for long-term.
I would agree with your sentiment about AI; however, Apple did deliver on their BS with AI. I don't use any of it. What Apple did not deliver on was a smarter Siri, which only tangentially(?) has to do with AI. The current state of Siri is mostly a result of Apple's neglect of it. It is so frustrating dealing with Siri because it functions so poorly, even worse than before. -
Trump's 25% smartphone tariff starts just in time for the iPhone 17
daven said:I may end up driving to Canada from Wisconsin to buy my next iPhone. No way am I going to pay the Trump Tax.You arrogantly forgot about the exchange rate difference, and you simply don't understand how tariffs really work. Best of luck to you.
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Apple's AI smart screen devices will have to wait on Siri revamp
AppleZulu said:This starts to perhaps support my argument that the home hub itself will be a screen-less, stationary box, like Apple TV, that will provide centralized computational power to enable AI on all home-networked devices, including HomePods, TVs and dedicated home control screens. The J490 screens described here would be comparatively inexpensive portable terminals, networked to the hub. Wall mounts (and other mount options) would give the screens a powered home base, with the idea that a home would have multiple screens distributed to key locations.Having a truly Apple-like Apple Home where it all “just works” depends on reliable and convenient user control available throughout the home. HomePods offer distributed voice control, but convenient hands-on control has thus far included the common inconvenience of the user having left their iPhone or iPad elsewhere in the home. Wall-mounted terminal screens inexpensive enough to own a few resolve that problem.