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  • Epic Games appears to out Apple VR development in Fortnite dispute

    Beats said:
    tele1234 said:
    jeroenhmg said:

    Apple platforms could lose all (future) Unreal-based games, Epic seems tantrum-angry enough to just amputate an arm and ignore the bleeding.
    ...then again, Unreal-engine is not really going away since engine users/customers can still keep building for Apple platforms using the source.
    Epic games could lose distribution channels outside of just Apple on this journey.
    Epic could lose engine customers on mobile platforms, they are not the only engine provider, a very good one but not the only one.

    It's not just a matter of being 'a very good one', it's a matter of it's the most powerful by a country mile, with easily portability between platforms using familiar languages for software developers. The runners-up don't even come close. Legions of indie game developers for iOS right now would be both (a) out of a job or (b) forced to undergo retraining to keep their jobs, should their companies want to stay on iOS. True, any good developer should be able to transition between platforms with relative ease but it's not an overnight process. It can take months, or even years, to perfect the talent. To use a different example, an airline can't just replace all its Boeing with Airbus - they'd need all new pilots.

    Asking developers to abandon Unreal would be as silly as asking end users to abandon iOS. It's not going to happen. True, there was a time when no one thought that the rail companies would disappear, or US Steel would be broken up, or AT&T would have competition, or Microsoft would face scrutiny - the world is a history of monopolies and giants. iOS is one in the mobile platform undeniably, and likewise Unreal is in the gaming world. Some of Apple's biggest games marketing for Apple Arcade are powered by Unreal, and that is something Apple doesn't want to forfit.

    Apple should just develop a superior engine and destroy Epic.

    With Apple Silicon Macs coming they can develop an engine that simultaneously works with Mac/iPad/iPhone/Apple TV. This can cuase an explosion in Apple Arcade support. Imagine your game releases simultaneously on all Apple platforms with little work. Developers would be drooling.

    Also, Apple should start "Gaming" the Apple Watch. That's a billion dollar market just waiting. And I don't mean tic-tac-toe on your Watch I mean full scale adventures that connect to Apple TV and real life physical fitness.
    Apple could also just buy them, kick out Sweeney and instantly own a large part of the high-end premium games market for all platforms. Lots of data analytics potential in that. It's only about $18 billion! The ownership list for Epic is fun too: Tencent owns 40% and Sony recently invested $250 million (~1.5%) - which explains why Epic is not complaining about Sony Playstation Store's 30% cut... and who knows what involvement Tencent has in this debacle (owner of wechat).

    I do love this industry 🤣

    spock1234watto_cobra
  • Epic Games appears to out Apple VR development in Fortnite dispute

    Seriously though, there are no winners in this.

    Just brain-dumping:
    Apple platforms could lose all (future) Unreal-based games, Epic seems tantrum-angry enough to just amputate an arm and ignore the bleeding.
    ...then again, Unreal-engine is not really going away since engine users/customers can still keep building for Apple platforms using the source.
    Epic games could lose distribution channels outside of just Apple on this journey.
    Epic could lose engine customers on mobile platforms, they are not the only engine provider, a very good one but not the only one.

    Here is what the various industry players offer as revenue split (some anecdotally):
    Store			Rev. Cut
    ------------------------------------------------
    Twitch 50%
    Apple App Store 30%
    Google Play Store 30%
    Valve Steam 30%, 25% $10mil+, 20% $50mil+
    Amazon App Store 30%
    Sony 30% (*)
    Microsoft 30% (*)
    Nintendo 30% (*)
    Epic Games Store 12%
    Discord Store 10%

    Most players play Fortnite on consoles, so where is Epic's ire at Sony, Nintendo and Microsoft for their console online stores? Don't they all just take the same cut as Apple? Surely they have similar rules with payment methods?
    digital_guyStrangeDayskillroymagman1979ronngregoriusmspock1234applguywatto_cobra
  • Epic Games appears to out Apple VR development in Fortnite dispute

    Not as cool as Biden outing the electric Corvette.
    ramanpfaffwatto_cobra