morky

I remember the packaging was great on the original iPod I gifted in 2001. Apparently that unboxing cost me $28,601.

macxpress said:

morky said:

macxpress said:

Stabitha_Christie said:

chadbag said:

Now I know why BMW drivers are  attracted to BMWs.   "Takes one to know one".  Arrogant a-hole drivers attracted to arrogant company.

(Note the above is said in jest, but only partially.  Whether deserved or Not, BMW drivers do have a certain stereotyped reputation). 

It's funny, the other day I was thinking that Tesla drivers had surpassed BMW drives for that reputation. So not terribly surprised to see the two companies linked in this article. 

Yeah, Tesla people are very attached to the brand...even though the car as a whole is a POS. 

No, it isn't. 

Yes it is...its horribly built and has some of the worst reliability of any car on the road. 

macxpress said:

morky said:

macxpress said:

Stabitha_Christie said:

chadbag said:

Now I know why BMW drivers are  attracted to BMWs.   "Takes one to know one".  Arrogant a-hole drivers attracted to arrogant company.

(Note the above is said in jest, but only partially.  Whether deserved or Not, BMW drivers do have a certain stereotyped reputation). 

It's funny, the other day I was thinking that Tesla drivers had surpassed BMW drives for that reputation. So not terribly surprised to see the two companies linked in this article. 

Yeah, Tesla people are very attached to the brand...even though the car as a whole is a POS. 

No, it isn't. 

Yes it is...its horribly built and has some of the worst reliability of any car on the road. 

I'll take Sandy Munro's assessments over yours, sorry.

TightLines said:

Beats said:

Who’s surprised by Tesla?

Knowing Apple, they will update software frequently and it will be secure. If Apple can kick Tesla’s ass in software, this will make non-Tesla electric cars more tempting.

Yup, and Tesla is a fraud in its own right that no one in a regulatory agency, in any country does anything about. How’s that solar panel business Elon saved his brother from working out? How about it’s cozy relationship with the gov’t of China? Has anyone even started to look at the security risks the Tesla products introduce to our society? How long did it recently take hackers to make a set of Tesla keys and make away with their vehicle? Like 130 seconds, or something like that? The company was created to suck as much public money as it can (corporate welfare) to enrich its founder, fund its technological R&D, and swindle uniformed investors alike… the accounting standards its being subjected to are suspect at best. Apple not being accepted into that ecosystem is no loss to Apple… they would be fighting the Tesla companies sneaky ways to funnel user/customer data into the hands of the highest bidder…

You've got the narrative all wrong. Everything you stated above is patently false.

Anyone who has closely followed Apple over the past 20 years should recognize Tesla taking a very similar approach on vertical integration. They are innovating like no one else in the auto industry in manufacturing, and they are relying less and less on external suppliers for parts. Their in-house seat manufacturing and one-piece casting underbody are prime examples. As far as their software, unlike traditional OEMs, their software is not a pathetic joke. They actually have high-caliber software and hardware teams, regularly release over-the-air updates, and they even design their own silicon for their self-driving computer. Apple may develop a better UI in the near term than Tesla, but Tesla has the chops to keep up. More importantly, Tesla's Apple-like focus on vertical integration means they will never cede control of their UI to a third party, especially as they move toward a self-driving future where there is big money to be made on their infotainment system. The OEMs are accepting CarPlay because they know their software is terrible and have no chance of catching up.

ericthehalfbee said:

dk49 said:

And who's going to partner with Apple, given that basically every manufacturer Apple tried to reach denied them?

Show me any official press releases stating this. Rumors don’t count.


That said, those suggesting Apple should buy Tesla are out to lunch. Tesla is nothing special. Apple should buy Lucid (if they don’t go big and buy someone like
VW).

Telsa is one of the few companies Apple can't afford. Tesla is quite special which is why they are dominating the EV sector. Apple is capable of competing in this space and should build their own cars and especially batteries to drive innovation in manufacturing, but perhaps they can do that with a partner as well. Things are going to get worse for Tesla competitors before they get better. They are going to make the entire underbody of the Model Y in Berlin and Austin from three castings, and that's not even touching on the Tesla battery revolution we're about to see. These are fun tech times. Reminds me of the early 2000s when we were constantly blown away by what Apple was doing.