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Intel's chip design, not Apple's choices, reason behind Thunderbolt 3 & RAM issues in new MacBook P
There's a reasonable chance it was the Touch Bar that delayed the release of the 2016 MBPs. Pretty much all of the rest of the tech would have been available for a release much earlier in 2016, but if the Touch Bar was the "big deal" feature and it wasn't ready yet (including having major software titles available shortly after launch to take advantage of it), do you pull it from your design (major rework) or delay the release? In hindsight, yeah, they should have simply released a Skylake update of the existing MBP design (no Touch Bar, same ports except perhaps TB3 in place of TB2) early in 2016 and then released the redesigned MPB with Touch Bar MBP with Kaby Lake a year later. And at that point it even would have been a bit more palatable to go TB3/USB C only as the USB C ecosystem would have had more time to mature.elijahg said:
So Apple's using CPUs that're a year behind. Will they still be using the same CPUs in 500 days? Why didn't they update the MacBooks in Q4 2015 with Skylake? If they'd updated in Q4 2015 they could have waited until Q1 2017 for Kaby Lake. They're completely out of sync with Intel's release cycles now, couldn't really have released the 2016 MBPs at a worse time. Sadly, it seems to me like they're trying to let the Mac die.AppleInsider said:The 6360U launched in the third quarter of 2015
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How to restore the classic Mac startup chime to Apple's new 2016 MacBook Pros
Most likely they turned it off because of the new auto-boot "feature" of booting the computer whenever you open it or whenever it's open and you plug in the power. They probably realized that there would be many times that the computer would boot when the person wasn't expecting it so rather than annoy them with the boot chime (or wake up eyekey's girlfriend) they disabled it.Donvermo said:I wonder why they chose to remove it. It is not like people reboot their MacBooks constantly throughout the day that it would be a problem. Granted it takes up space while it isn't being used often. Software real estate is the cheapest one we have and keeping an old but nostalgic reference to the machine's origins seems like just that small dot on the I that adds the emotional attachment to the machine many of us share. It will certainly be missed.
Luckily it can all be reversed, but it should be a preference in the System Preference UI, not terminal commands. If I want my computer to boot I'll tell it to boot, and it won't always be when I open the lid or plug in the power.
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Examined: Thunderbolt 3 and USB 3.1 gen 2 on the new MacBook Pro with Touch Bar
So, I've seen you make this statement a few times now on these boards. Just exactly what adapter do you think comes with the iPhone 7? Because the one in the box will in no way help you plug in the iPhone 7 Lightning ear buds into any laptop.Rayz2016 said:
Actually it shows that Apple doesn't remove things unless they have to. The depth of the Macbook can still accommodate a headphone jack, so there is no point in removing it. When they get this thing down to the width of a USB-C port then the jack will probably go.cali said:
This is more in line with what I was thinking but it also shows that Apple isn't confident that wireless is the future. It's also funny because I saw the future happening for the first time today, someone was complaining that it didn't have lightning for his new headphones.Rayz2016 said:cali said:Is Apple having a port identity crisis? Also notice these have headphone jacks. Aren't headphone jacks, like function keys, outdated technology?
Shouldn't Apple be pushing Lightning 2.0? Are problems arising with USB-C? What the hell is going on?
Yes Apple thinks that headphones are outdated technology, but they would have left one on the iPhone if there was room for it and if it didn't compromise the waterproofing. Fortunately the Mac has more space, and is never going to be water resistant, so it gets to stay there's no room.
They could have put a lightning connector on the MacBook, but I guess they thought that a lot of professional musicians will be less than happy to give up their favourite headphones, and anyone with a set of lightning headphones from their iPhone7 already has an adapter.
As far as my lightning comment, I'm hoping Apple announces a lightning 2.0 with more capabilities than USB-C. I feel like Apple should go all the way or not go at all
If someone complains that he can't plug in his new lightning headphones then tell him to look in the box his iPhone7 came in. If he has Apple lightning buds then they came with his iPhone7 … along with an adaptor.
I won't bother going into what's wrong with your first paragraph. Let's get you straightened out on your adapter confusion first.
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Examined: Thunderbolt 3 and USB 3.1 gen 2 on the new MacBook Pro with Touch Bar
I don't know of anyone who was expecting that only some of the ports would support Thunderbolt. Having physically identical ports on the same machine but with significant different capabilities would have been pretty silly.AppleInsider said:While everybody expected USB-C connectors on the new MacBook Pro, all four ports being Thunderbolt 3 wasn't.
It's would have also been worth pointing out with the mention of the MacBook that it's single port does not support Thunderbolt. It's implied by omission, but I've read in places where people have not realized there was a difference.
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Ship times for new MacBook Pro models with Touch Bar fall to 4-5 weeks
No, no. It's about the convenience of just having to get the MagSafe close to the port and it gets pulled into place and aligned by the magnet. And when I pick up my MBP a light flick with my left thumb as I gripe the edge of the case will disconnect the MagSafe. I can disconnect power and pick up my laptop in one motion with a single hand.macplusplus said:
What mgnetic attraction ?! The power is conducted by means of good old pins, not magnetic attraction in MagSafe. Magnetic attraction just holds the cord in place. So you were thinking that the Mac has a magnetic charging similar to the Watch, right? OMG OMG...ireland said:Pity no good MagSafe adapter from Apple, and the only third party one is this giant thing—one ugly gadget. Then we have 10 hour battery life, so the argument that battery life is so good you rarely need to charge doesn't fly. I don't buy that as a good argument anyway. For me the best thing about MagSafe isn't the trip-safety, but the elegance of magnetic attraction for power.
And then there's the entry machine: €1,749 and no Touch Bar :-(
If MacBook Air at 256 GB is €1,379 the least Apple could do is give us Touch Bar in the new machine at €1,749. I guess when my bonuses are $10M I won't care either. €2,099 for the cheapest 13" Touch Bar model.
Given the price, battery life and MagSafe, 13" MBA is the better choice for most people. The four reasons I choose MacBook Air, battery life, MagSafe, slimness and price and Phil's suggestion this "entry-level" machine be an Air replacement/upgrade and it only meets one of these.
That and the fact the new machine doesn't have Lightning is puzzling. So I buy an iPhone and can't use its headphones with my new MBP without that dongle? I don't wish to spend €300 on headphones; I don't wish to have to charge my headphones; I hate Micro-USB. Plenty of reasons I want to use wired headphones, especially the ones with my new iPhone without the requirement to use a dongle. Dongle for 1/4 jack products, Lightning without dongle—as it should be. Everything else will move to USBc/Thun3 eventually.
I would miss that convenience even more than the trip protection MagSafe provided.
