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spheric said:

wiggin said:

spheric said:

A point I never see mentioned is that we're talking about laptops here: 

their primary function is portability! 

Form IS function. 

If you prioritise power over portability, do what those pros do who can't compromise and buy a Pelican case for your iMac, end of story. 

Perhaps a refresher on the concept of "point of diminishing returns" is in order. Otherwise you'd eliminate the laptop altogether and do all your work on your phone. Much more portable than a silly laptop. Hyperbole? Absolutely. But isn't that the primary function of this forum?

Heh. Point of diminishing returns, a refresher. Cute. 

Look. I use my computer to make money. I have it, and the iPad, with me, pretty much always. 

My 2011 13" MBP is "okay" for size and weight. Carrying this thing around all the time, I'd LOVE for it to be lighter. But since the CPU became the limiting factor on my old machine, my next one is definitely going to be a quad-core. So, grudgingly — VERY grudgingly — a 15" machine it is.

What I really wanted is a quad 13".

Turns out, the 15" is now only ever so slightly larger, but the same weight, as my old 13" 'Book.
I get the power I need, and it still doesn't completely fuck up my remaining good shoulder. 

I'm not everybody, but I AM the mobile professional — in audio — that Apple designed these machines for.
Go ahead. Blame me.

…and get stuffed.  

Everybody prioritizes their preferences differently. And the point of diminishing returns is a different point for everyone...but there is always a point of diminishing returns. Your preference is for the lightest weight possible. And my preferences don't invalidate your preferences, just as your preferences don't invalidate mine. Apple has chosen to only offer a single lineup of "pro" laptops.*  So it's up to them to try to figure out where the diminishing return point is at, which preferences get priority. Based on the feedback so far, which has by far been more negative that any Apple product release in at least the last decade, we should at least consider the possibility that perhaps they went just a tad too far on the thinness scale.

* Apple still offers the 2015 15" integrated graphics MPBs, so they haven't exactly retired the previous chassis design just yet. Clearly they saw that there might still be a market for a laptop with all of the legacy ports.

spheric said:

A point I never see mentioned is that we're talking about laptops here: 

their primary function is portability! 

Form IS function. 

If you prioritise power over portability, do what those pros do who can't compromise and buy a Pelican case for your iMac, end of story. 

Perhaps a refresher on the concept of "point of diminishing returns" is in order. Otherwise you'd eliminate the laptop altogether and do all your work on your phone. Much more portable than a silly laptop. Hyperbole? Absolutely. But isn't that the primary function of this forum?

I suspect they are simply going to fold their Airport functionality into the Apple TV. It would be a great Trojan Horse to get Apple TV's into more homes, both for the media capabilities and as a home automation hub.

polymnia said:

larryjw said:

Okay. Time for the Apple executives to be replaced. I don't know if any should be kept on in executive or non-executive positions, or even with the company, but collectively these folks don't have a clue. This replacement needs to be done fast. Apple as no more than 5 years left as a viable company.

Steve Jobs was adamant that one does not worry about stock prices and profit. Both come when one produces innovative products and sells them for what they are worth (maybe what the "market can bare"). 

For Apple to abandon all products except their most profitable ones is guaranteed to kill the company. Companies grow based on the synergies from all their product lines. 

Bottom line. The current crop of Apple executives are proving themselves to wholly incompetent. 

Killing all products except the most profitable is EXACTLY what Steve did when he came back.

He also killed the OS.

Within a decade Apple was well on its way to the biggest, most profitable company ever.

But, who knows, maybe you are right.

LOL  I always love when people try to point to what Apple did when Steve came back as a justification for actions today. Apple was a VERY different company back then, on the brink of bankruptcy. "Beleaguered", was the word commonly used to describe Apple. They had little capital, poor credit, and a rats nest of a product lineup. It was literally focus or die. The actions Apple took then were a necessity, driven by a short-term goal of not disappearing from the map entirely.

So you are suggesting that today's Apple with, what, over a quarter trillion dollars in the bank, practically zero corporate debt (other than that the choose to have due to much of the money being offshore), and one of the highest market capitalization in history, should behave the same as a nearly bankrupt, irrelevancy? That's brilliant! (not)

pslice said:

Okay, abandoning products sounds ugly. I want to know which router Mr Cook uses.

Whichever one his IT staff sets up for him.