cnocbui

sog35 said:

cnocbui said:

He doesn't want to set a precedent?

But he already disputed the rumors/lies that China sales were in the tank.
Remember he sent an email to Jim Kramer that China was doing fine?

"I get updates on our performance in China every day, including this morning, and I can tell you that we have continued to experience strong growth for our business in China through July and August,"

sog35 said:

Can someone give a rational explanation why Tim Cook isn't disputing these reports?

He doesn't want to set a precedent?

mr o said:

cnocbui said:

How does the removal of the headphone socket materially benefit you personally?

Simplicity.

And while they are at it, I hope the Micro SD card slot follows suit. Or perhaps that is more like an iPhone 7S feature?

Good point.

I think you must mean the SIM slot as Apple have never given people the option of adding to the base storage.

While they are at it they should drop the camera as not everyone uses that feature just as not everyone uses the headphone socket.  That would considerably benefit simplicity as people would no longer have to wonder whether or not they should take a photo or a movie or how to compose a shot.  It would allow for a much cleaner design and there would be no requirement for a hump and it would free up internal space for more battery capacity and other innovations.

A camera module that plugs into the lightning port could be sold for those people who happen to want to take photos.

davidw said:

pixel19 said:

First thing I do when I get a new phone is toss the crap headphones in the garbage, now they're expecting us to listen to audio via Bluetooth? For some of us that care about audio quality this SUCKS!

If you care about audio quality, you should welcome being able to get a digital signal from the iPhone, so you can use a better built in DAC in your headphones (or headphone amp). No one I know, that care about audio quality, actually thinks that the analog signal from an iPhone or iPod is actually a high quality signal. There's a reason why there are special headphones made for MP3 devices, they correct for the short coming of the analog signal from them. Listen to the analog signal from any MP3 player with high end headphones made for a stereo system and you'll hear the difference from it and a basic home stereo.   

I care about audio quality and I think the output from iPhones and a lot of competing phones easily matches that of dedicated CD players.  I think a lot of people claim to be able to sonically differentiate DACs but I personally doubt such ability would survive a proper blind ABX comparrison.

lord amhran said:

This Apple-obsession with thinness is getting asinine

It has absolutely nothing to do with thinness and everything to do with just making more money.

The Vivo X5 Max is 4.75mm thick and still has a 3.5mm headphone jack. The 6S is 7.1mm thick. The internal space argument is as much hogwash as the need for nano sims vs micro sims, something which was quite apparent when I opened my daughters 5 to install a new battery.

No, this is about money. 50 million Lightning to 3.5mm adapters at $30 each with an 80% markup - ka-ching! 50 million beats headphones with lossy bluetooth and an 80% markup - ka-Ching. license fees from 200 million third party lightning chip sporting headphones and earbuds - ka-ching.

Meanwhile the Samsung S7 will reportedly include the best portable device DAC ever made with 129dB dynamic range and -120dB (0.0001%) harmonic distortion.
Not having to pay for a decent DAC in 80 million phones - ka-ching!