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kamalwatt1 said:

This article forgot to mention the 3000 mah battery of the s7 and the 3600 mah battery of the s7 edge

I can assure you it didn't 'forget.'

tenly said:

I started off being 100% behind Apple
on this issue, but the longer this conversation goes on, the more clearly I'm able to see both sides.

But - if we resign ourselves to the fact that the government can and will legislate a requirement to provide some type of assistance - what kind of system could they create that would protect individuals from hackers and foreign governments while still complying with a legal requirement to help law enforcement agencies?

The issues about whether the government has the "right" to do this or not and the preservation of the constitutional rights is one for the courts.  I'm glad that Apple is standing up for our rights, but there is only so much that they, as a corporation can and should do.  If actual laws are passed - Apple will be forced to comply with those laws.  Let's hope that  they find a way to do so that continues to protect our rights and ensures that our data remains secure.

The thing about this case so many people do not seem to want to acknowledge is that this is not about one phone.  it's not about Apple being ordered to do this once, it's about them being ordered by courts all over the country to possibly be doing this thousands of times a year.

This idea that information can never be beyond the reach of a Judge is idiotic.  The principle already exists that this is the case in that a person can know all sorts of things in their heads and it can't be forced out.

If Apple are compelled to do this, have you considered that if they believe security to be a big selling point that they may decide to remove their own technical ability to comply with such orders in the future and either come up with an A series chip where the OS can't compromise it's security or move their iOS development entirely off-shore, possibly into the hands of an autonomous self entity?

bugsnw said:

I think if this was another company, people would think it prudent to help unlock phones on a court-ordered by court-ordered basis. The odds of this technology getting out are quite low. Both sides make a great case. I just lean slightly towards national security on this one. Even with an encryption key safeguarded by the govt./FBI, I would feel like my data was safe from prying eyes. We don't have all that much privacy out in the wild as it is. It's part of the give and take of rights vs. safety.

Do you even know what 'risk' is?

Being harmed through an act of terrorism is one of the least likely - therefore lowest risk - things that are likely to happen to someone living in a politically developed country.  You are about 4 times more likely to be hit by lightning in the US than be harmed through terrorism.  If it was proposed by the three letter agencies that giving them full access to all your communications and documents would allow them to reduce the chances of you being hit by lightning you would laugh - well I hope you would.

You are 33,842 times more likely to die of cancer than through terrorism, yet because the three letter agencies effectively run the country, the US government spends $500M per terrorism mortality vs $10,000 per cancer victim.  Is that sane?

Somewhere between 180,000  to 440,000 people die in the US annually from preventable medical mistakes and infections.  Maybe money would be better spent on educating people as to how low a risk terrorism really is and then diverting the enormous sums spent on the war-on-terror to health care.  Even just being slightly more thorough in cleaning hospitals would have a greater beneficial impact than has ever been derived from the TSA groping people.

http://thinkbynumbers.org/government-spending/anti-terrorism-spending-disproportionate-to-threat/
http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2013/09/youre-68-times-more-likely-to-be-hit-and-killed-by-lightning-than-murdered-by-a-terrorist.html

All this nonsense to retrieve a 6 week old shopping list.

This is the same mob of cretins who tried to force Microsoft to hand over the contents of emails held on a sever in Ireland, to set a precedent for extraterritorialy extending the reach of their hegemony, rather than go through the established channels and ask the Irish authorities to grant access.

Not terribly hard to see a common theme here and an obvious orchestrated agenda.

I can't wait to not have a 3.5mm socket.  That's worth at least half the price right there. /s