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mike1 said:

The SE seems to be an S5 with an S3's optical-only heart sensor and no compass. Like the iPhone SE, it's a scary awesome value.

According to Apple's website, the SE does indeed have a compass.

sog35 said:

Come on man, that was all about what Steve Jobs did.  No CEO can add that much value to a company in EIGHT MONTHS.

Yet everyone thought AAPL would tank after SJ resigned and after his death... yet it didn't.   SJ was a big part of Apple, but not the only person working there. 

sog35 said:

Come on man.

The massive rocket ship that was the iPhone was going to blast off with or without Cook.
You can't give Cook credit for the iPhone taking off in 2012.

Hard to believe the stock is worth LESS than in 2012. 

So do you seriously think it was Cook that made the stock go from $50 to $100 in less than a year? 
That was his first year as CEO the stock DOUBLE.  Was that Cook?  Come on man. It was all about Jobs.

And since it reached $100 in 2012 the stock is LOWER today.

So, you only refer to Cook's perfomance when something goes wrong, but not when something goes right?  Okay then. 

And yes... one can give Cook credit for the iPhone taking off... because of him and the entire company of Apple was able to deliver enough iPhones (and other products) to make it rocket up. 

The stock also went up to $132.  4 years after he became CEO... or you think that was Jobs' doing as well?

And many people have forgotten, that Steve Jobs told Cook and the rest of the company, do say "What would Steve Jobs do? ... do what you think is right."  So even SJ said... make the company "yours".  I have a lot of respect for SJ ad what he was able to do, but even he had misses too and made mistakes and debacles under his reign of CEO. 

1. Stock is down $200 billion 
2. Wasted $115 billion on buyback with no added value
3. Acquistions have been blah at best
4. Has not grown the company beyond being iPhone Inc.

You keep talking about the loss and the "failure".  

But what about the gains and increase and money in the bank?  Yes, it's less now than it was a year ago, but it's still more than it was when he took over 5 years ago. 

shev said:

Maybe if they updated the $1500 MBP once in a while they might generate some much needed revenue...

And what would that be?  Would would you like updated?

Hard to do, if Intel isn't coming out with anything new.  Besides that it would be small bumps..... but then that's the problem.  I have a rMBP..... and I used it to make a living.... nothing wrong with it.  

And a price drop is not considered an update.