seanie248

beowulfschmidt said:

charlituna said:

Eric_WVGG said:

I’m a bit confused by how they retrieved this data.

access to the phone if the user didn't have a passcode lock. access to an iCloud backup (which holds your activity history)

Do Australia's laws protect a suspect's right to silence the way they do in the U.S.?  Or she might have actually voluntarily given the authorities the phone passcode, thinking there was nothing useful there.

ihatescreennames said:

seanie248 said:

Soli said:

seanie248 said:

Soli said:

seanie248 said:

but what about all those articles stating that you don't need to force close apps? background apps don't use the battery when closed.... yeah right !!! if you still think that, then spend an hour with me and i'll prove you wrong.

Adding to @ihatescreennames' comment, show me one article that says apps running in the background don't use the battery. You can't because it's a ridiculous notion. If there's a process running in the background it's using the battery. To reiterate the point @ihatescreennames made, you use more battery life and waste more time by force closing every app that happens to be sitting in your most recent app list if it can't launch from a hibernation state, which means it has to use a lot more power to launch again.

More power to launch? are you kidding? Its not a kettle boiling or a car starting. I can leave my phone for an hour or 2 and some apps that are doing nothing will show as using the battery in the background and my battery life will drain. If i close them after using them, my phone lasts up to 2 days. You can't say I am wrong, because I know what i see with my own eyes. Just because it doesn't happen with your use case , it doesn't mean it never happens to anyone. 

Before you were just wrong about one thing and now you're even more wrong. No one is expecting you to understand how NAND or saved states work on an iPhone, to but to claim that "apps that are doing nothing" are "using the battery in the background and my battery life will drain" without a basic compression that they must be doing something for them to be draining the battery is unfathomable to me.

Despite all this conservation you've made zero comments about any app settings, actual timeframes, or percentage of battery usage. All you've done is state how it makes it you feel to remove all previous used apps from FAS regardless of whether they're running, without any notion of adjusting their settings, and without a single mention of which apps could be problematic. You haven't even addressed that after a restart all apps you've previously used are still in FAS in the order they were last used, and yet you somehow think they all must be running if they're in there. But suit yourself, it's not like logic and reason has ever been a cure for OCD.

who said I close all apps??? You are the one making assumptions. Wrongly. Just to keep you happy:

Why are you having a hard time comprehending that on MY phone, some apps need to be force closed, otherwise they chew through the battery. 
If it doesnt happen for you, then Excellent. Delighted for you ! Wish it was me.
Cant tell me I am wrong, as I know what i see.

In your first post on this thread you said, “but what about all those articles stating that you don't need to force close apps?”, I mentioned there were no articles like that, and instead mentioned the articles say that you don’t need to force close ALL apps ALL of the time in an effort to save battery life, and by doing so is likely counter to saving battery life.  I also mentioned force closing misbehaving apps may be necessary. 

In a subsequently posted links to 2 articles (well, 1 article and 1 video) saying you don’t need to force close ALL apps ALL the time.

In the post I quoted above you are saying @Soli is making assumptions.  Well, based on your posts in this thread, if @Soli is making assumptions I can understand why.  In this post you also state that you don’t force close all apps but then also mention that on a restart FAS will be empty because you’ve already closed all your apps.  This is confusing and could also lead to someone making assumptions about your phone usage, and again I would understand why.

In this post you also said, “some apps need to be force closed, otherwise they chew through the battery.”  So, now it appears you are on-board with the “not ALL apps need to be closed ALL the time in an effort to save battery life” as Apple and several others have been saying since FAS was introduced (iOS 3, I believe).  By reading what you have stated it appears you have figured out which apps are misbehaving in the background and are force closing them, but the ones that are not misbehaving you leave in FAS.  This is what all those articles for so many years have been saying. The YouTube app clearly fell into the misbehaving category and needed to be force closed.  Maybe now it doesn’t.

I’m not sure what your argument is.