one9deuce

9secondkox2 said:

one9deuce said:

This is the future of the internet, it will be bigger than the personal computer and bigger than the smart phone. For many years the main way to access the internet was sitting at a desk, looking at an around a 15” screen, and using a mouse. Then for the last decade and a half most people access the internet with a 4” piece of glass and using their fingers on the touchscreen. Those will both seem quaint someday. Apple Vision is the first step in the majority of people being able to visit the internet as though it is an actual place or have the internet be part of the place they’re at. Shopping for something at Target? Do you want to be looking at the item an inch high on your phone, or looking at it as though you’re IN Target and actually looking at the item? Making travel plans? Want to see your hotel room in a photo a couple inches in size  on a tablet, or would you rather walk around in the room as though you’re there? Love sports? Want to watch the Chiefs trick play touchdown on your little phone screen or watch it like you’re on the sideline? 

The Apple Vision Pro is a VERY expensive first step obviously, but it’s the Vision OS that everyone should be paying attention to because that’s the future that Apple is taking us to. There will eventually be a pair of glasses that we can easily throw on that won’t look much different than a pair of Oakleys, that will run Vision OS with an iPhone at first and then someday without. 

Steve Jobs influence is still alive and well at Apple, they’re skating to where the puck is going not where it’s at. There are going to be a TON of naysayers for this thing because they’re not seeing 5 to 10 years from now. Apple sees it and has spent many 10’s of billions of dollars to make this happen. Someday just being able command the internet with your eyes and have it be life size (or bigger) will be the most normal thing and EVERYONE will be doing it. 

Hate to be the breaker of bubbles, but the proverbial puck isn’t going to be in the headset space. It literally had already been there a decade ago and it turned out to be a nothing burger. 

Computers were a nothing burger in homes until the mouse and then the internet, phones were pretty much a nothing burger until iPhone multi-touch and the internet, this will be the exact same thing: Apple showing the way. 

This is the future of the internet, it will be bigger than the personal computer and bigger than the smart phone. For many years the main way to access the internet was sitting at a desk, looking at an around a 15” screen, and using a mouse. Then for the last decade and a half most people access the internet with a 4” piece of glass and using their fingers on the touchscreen. Those will both seem quaint someday. Apple Vision is the first step in the majority of people being able to visit the internet as though it is an actual place or have the internet be part of the place they’re at. Shopping for something at Target? Do you want to be looking at the item an inch high on your phone, or looking at it as though you’re IN Target and actually looking at the item? Making travel plans? Want to see your hotel room in a photo a couple inches in size  on a tablet, or would you rather walk around in the room as though you’re there? Love sports? Want to watch the Chiefs trick play touchdown on your little phone screen or watch it like you’re on the sideline? 

JohnDenver101 said:

There’s only two more frontiers possible with the internet, the internet as part of your world or the internet as a place you can go to an actually experience. And the Apple Vision platform does both. There will be a day where we think it’s quaint that we experienced the internet on a 20” monitor or a 4” phone screen. Why watch NBA highlights on a small phone screen when you can experience the highlights like you’re court side or actually on the court with the players? Why shop for things on a small phone screen when you can feel as though your actually in the store and looking at something in three dimensions as though it’s actually in front of you? 

I mean to be fair you could already do this with any other headset available today. The developers of the shopping experience or sporting events are the ones that need to make this possible, not Apple per se. I don't see why these experiences could only happen now that Apple made a headset. A headset not all that different than all the other headsets offered today. Yes it does a lot of things better than the others, but was there anything really ground breaking that we haven't already seen?

The VR experiences that you talked about will have their place and will be neat but right now it still feels more like 3D TVs at this point. Cool in theory but not really practical. There are some major drawbacks to these experiences as well. One of the best parts about watching games and movies is doing it with friends. Everyone gathered around the TV cheering, high fives, whatever. This completely takes you out of that experience. Maybe if you want to watch the game with your dad while you're at college it might be cool but unless you are alone this experience kinda sucks.  Lots of unknowns with this tech still but from what the Vision Pro has showed us so far, I wouldn't get my hopes up this will be anything more than niche. 

Two really big (and many smaller) factors differentiate what Apple is doing vs. everyone else. The first is interacting with the internet with just your eyes and a pinch (they way Apple is implementing it is so amazing) the eye tracking is apparently something that other companies have done before, but until the Apple Vision keynote I had *never* even heard of that before. Which means that 99% of the population hasn’t. Which leads me to the next big factor, Apple has an install base of over a billion people! This is exactly that moment when a company is perfectly suited and situated to bring this to the mainstream. And bring it they will. 

The Apple Vision Pro platform is the future of computing and will change the world more than the iPhone did. A lot more. What is the killer app that will ensure this? The same killer app that drove the success of home computers and phones: the internet. 

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fallenjt said:

And AAPL after hour trading drops over 1%. What kind of WS bullshit is that?

As always, Wall Street doesn’t care about what you did today, it’s about what it thinks you will do in the future. And the Covid-19 delta variant has thrown a monkey wrench into the financial crystal ball, all because 50% of the population are dumb, ignorant morons. There’s also a study out that reveals 1-in-5 believe the vaccines contain microchips. That means 20% of the population are certified idiots.

Well, that 50% clearly just needs to be educated. Such as providing links to actual studies on the long term effects of an mRNA vaccine on people. I think if you were to post some of those it would be very illuminating. 

And you’re spot on, just like previous quarters when Apple crushed earnings, it’s only what Wall St. thinks will happen going forward that matters. 

Well, if you go to the VAERS website* right now and compare vaccine deaths, most vaccine deaths range from a handful, to a dozen, to a couple hundred at most. Covid comes in over 6,000. Of course, not all of these are verified, but evidence suggests that most of the VAERS inputs are from medical providers. Keep in mind, vaccine programs have been halted before for as little as 25 deaths. We have >6,000 reported deaths now. And yet people see fit to continue this, even giving it to children, who have virtually no risk from covid. Incredibly cowardly, especially when you consider that over %90 of elderly (in the US at least) have already been vaccinated.

*https://wonder.cdc.gov/controller/datarequest/D8;jsessionid=3908F8EE3AEE3EC7F62CD6D4A87D

Yes, that’s great info. Thank you. My original intent was that there IS no long term studies on the effects of the vaccine on humans, but the short term effects are slowly starting to be more widely known thankfully. 

How will all of this affect Apple? Who knows? Should be an interesting quarter.  

I'll play.

627,000 people have officially died from COVID19 to date in the U.S., and you are "concerned" about a very small number who have had fatal reactions to the vaccines, and another some 6000 who have been vaccinated but died from COVID19 anyway.

Seems like a vaccination give you 100x better chance of life, and then of course, there are all of those nasty short and longterm effects of COVID19 that a significant portion of those with symptomatic COVID19 will experience over their lifetime.

I say, knock yourself out!

I’m absolutely concerned about what might happen if I get Covid 19 both in the short term and the long term. What can happen from contracting it is very known and not something I would ever take lightly. But I’m also quite concerned about what the long term effects of an mRNA vaccine are, and since that is not known by anybody I also don’t take that lightly either. Hopefully there are no long term side effects from an mRNA vaccine since hundreds of millions of people have gotten it. 

I’m also concerned I’m contributing to derailing this thread, so this post will be my last post on the vaccine.

One of my favorite subjects is Apple’s stock, so I look forward to more posts about their quarterly earnings report. Quarter 2 of 2020 to quarter 2 of 2021 was about a 50% increase, which is mind-boggling for a company with a market cap in the trillions. And I think they’re going to keep growing at an astounding rate.