libertyforall

Why isn’t Apple making these changes to notifications in Mojave?!  Dumb.  Mac sucking the hind tit as usual.  

Mike Wuerthele said:

libertyforall said:

Mike Wuerthele said:

libertyforall said:

Mike Wuerthele said:

libertyforall said:

Mike Wuerthele said:

libertyforall said:

mr. h said:

freethinking said:

Is the takeaway from the Test that the dell outperforms the mac when plugged into power? Which for me is 99% of the time and when I’m on the road I don’t do heavy workloads just browsing and itunes.

The takeaway is that the price of the 15" MacBook Pro is completely outrageous and totally unjustifiable. It used to be that when Apple launched a new Mac, that it was actually very price competitive with Windows PCs, when you actually did a proper "Apples to Apples" comparison (for want of a better colloquialism), in other words compared a MacBook Pro to a similarly sized and weighted machine. Alas, this is no longer the case. It's no wonder that Apple's Mac sales aren't up to much.

Better off with a 2015 15" MBP, which is what I bought when Apple failed to fix my '11 17" MBP GPU issues after THREE logic board replacements, at least that has a socketed SSD and a variety of ports.  

Apple does not care about longevity in their products any longer, they just want you to upgrade more frequently and don't fix the issues they did not engineer well that results in failures.  i.e. the Mac should have automatically disabled the discrete failed GPU and went solely to the integrated GPU instead of making the computer no longer usable!  

Read:
https://beetstech.com/blog/macbook-pro-unibody-2011-graphics-defect

and 
https://realmacmods.com/macbook-2011-radeon-gpu-disable/
+
https://realmacmods.com/product/macbook-pro-2011-radeon-disable-utility/

Even including keyboard failures, the 2016 and 2017 MBP have a lower first-year failure rate than the 2015 MBP did. And, everything you're talking about, including the 2011, had a repair program.

If they wanted you to upgrade more frequently, they never would have implemented the program.

Look, I get that they're not making what you want them to make. Get what makes you happy!

Apple NEVER fixed [re-engineered] the root cause GPU problems on the 2011 MBPs, that is crystal clear from the articles I linked and they just swapped replacement logic boards, a band-aid but the problem still recurs with the same complete failure issues, happened on THREE logic boards for me.  Pretty piss poor engineering responses on Apple's part!  They NEVER properly addressed the issues, only pretended to placate people who's MBPs had the issue.

You're conflating issues. Look up why the failures were happening.

Your point being what?  I provided all the information about the why in the links provided, those include:

*  GPU chip heat issues
*  Improper adhesion of chip to board (solder)
*  Improper selection of appropriate thermal compound
*  Poor cooling system

I guess my question is what precisely were you expecting to happen? It sucks that you had to deal with this but it worked out in the end, given that you were given a computer because of the multiple repairs. Your evidence presented doesn't support your conclusion.

I would expect Apple to provide an ACTUAL ENGINEERED FIX, not some half-hearted attempt to placate people with another time bomb!  

It did NOT work out in the end, I have a dead MBP that Apple never fixed and now says they no longer have parts for.  I had to buy another computer due to poor quality control, before I intended to.  

The conclusion that the 2011 MBPs were poorly engineered and not subsequently fixed despite a logic board replacement program is very well supported by a litany of evidence.  No idea what you are on about.  

First of all, I mis-read your initial statement. You BOUGHT the 2015, not were provided. For that part, I apologize. However...
 
I am "on" about this statement: "Apple does not care about longevity in their products any longer, they just want you to upgrade more frequently and don't fix the issues they did not engineer well that results in failures."

This is demonstrably false, despite your 2011. Had they not cared, there would have been no repair program at all, and you'd have bought a 2011 or 2012. Had they not improved their products, there'd have been no repair program (and two improvements, one of which is currently being used in repairs) to the 2016 MBP keyboard.

Yes, you had the experience that you did. I'm not contesting that, and it remains terrible. After the third repair, you should have been treated differently. However, your experience does not back up this bolded statement.

Out of curiosity, how's the 2015 holding up? Better, hopefully?

Ok Mike, this is disingenuous of you.  Did you actually read content at the links provided so you know what you are talking about?  Apple acted only because their hand was forced by lawsuit, I quote:

"Apple’s Response
In traditional Apple fashion, they would not acknowledge there was a problem and owners without additional AppleCare insurance would be made to pay in excess of $600 to replace their logic board with an equally defective unit. Faced with growing outrage Apple was forced to address this issue in October of 2014 when law firm Whitfield Bryson & Mason LLP filed a class action lawsuit in California federal court on behalf of consumers affected by GPU failure. The complaint included allegations about steps Apple took to conceal the GPU defect. When they were released in early 2011, Apple’s 15 and 17-inch MacBook Pros were being marketed as providing graphical performance three times faster than 2010 models. The suit alleged this performance caused the laptops to run so hot that the solder attached to the laptops GPUs would deform and crack, eventually causing system failure. The updated suit alleged that in 2011, Apple released a software update that reduced the performance of the GPUs by 33 percent in order to prevent them from reaching temperatures that would cause the GPUs to fail. On January 29th, 2015 Apple filed a motion to dismiss the lawsuit but ultimately ended up offering affected customers a replacement logic board. The replacement boards had the same defective chip and users would eventually face the same dilemma without Apple’s support. Apple ceased offering this replacement service in December of 2016."


Too early to say much about the 2015 I just bought months ago.  

I have a couple Android tablet style devices, and they never get major updates because the HW creators don't care.  This is one of the biggest downsides of Android!  

Huge bezels in 2018 look ridiculous and lack of FaceID is a HUGE MISS!  Nobody wants yesterday's technology in a premium priced MBP!  Why do back to TouchID after you already have a iPhone X?!  

Also odd to me is the lack of a cellular option or slot, why offer it in iPad but not MBPs?  

Do these support MU-MIMO?  

How come in 2018 there is STILL no way to search for an app and delete it in that search?!  Basic functionality still not in iOS, very frustrating!!!