gwydion

wizard69 said:

ireland said:

In the middle of watching Capitalism: A Love Story.

This has nothing to do with capitalism and has more to do with extortion. Maybe Washington should use the RICO laws against the EU.

And exactly, what extortion are you talking about?

radiospace said:

The EU a.k.a. Germany are just extorting U.S. firms like Apple with their "back taxes" scheme.... If no international body (WTO?) will step in and prevent this type of behavior, the U.S. needs to start playing equally dirty with all big European corporations doing business in the United States.  (BMW, VW, etc.)  Meanwhile we should be strengthening our future economic ties with the U.K., who, unlike Germany, are actually our friends.

Taking into account that most of the fines for illegal state aids and that most of the fines for anti competitive behaviour have gone to EU companies, perhaps you should provide some link to your claims

suddenly newton said:

Embrace, Extend, and... Fork. (Like they did with WebKit)

WebKit was a fork, wasn't?

latifbp said:

gwydion said:

Yes, it says that some people actually read what the commission documents say, from the 2014 document linked here http://ec.europa.eu/competition/state_aid/cases/253200/253200_1582634_87_2.pdf


And what the article 108.2 says?


But perhaps you know more about what the case is that the EU themselves, and perhaps when they say that the case is about alleged illegal aids from a member state to a company they are not actually talking about alleged ilegal aids. Perhaps they have to ask you.

When you can put a source saying that it is not alleged illegal aid then you can talk about sarcasm or other things. But as it is clear that you're just talking nonsense you won't give us anything rational apart of your ignorant, fanatic and hatred stupidities.

And yes, it says something, it says that you're just wasting out time with your nonsense.

The only stupid, repetitive and unchanging perspective is what you write.

Oh look, he finally said more than 'illegal state aid... illegal state aid'... This from the guy who couldn't even do a simple Google search to discover well documented information about international taxation during another post. You can create or cite whatever laws you'd like, but how will this decision (if it ever happens) benefit you? Likely it won't, it's just Euro-trash regardless of whatever straw man you're claiming to fight against.

And when it seemed that you reached the maximum level of nonsense, you tried harder and you wrote a post even more stupid.

It is not only that you don't know a shit about what you talk, it is not only that you didn't even reads the articles in Appleinsider and the links to the EU documents, it is not even about the fact that the other post shown that you don't know about international law and you only talk from you back and it is not only that you don't know a shit about how EU works.

latifbp said:

I think it says something that there are always only 2 people on here who do the 'illegal state aid' echolalic song and dance. The same 2 people every time... Even contradicting what other people from the EU say about this case. WTF?! There's no smoking gun, no ruling, contradictory opinions about the EU's stupid, overbearing over-regulatory over-burdensome laws... Why don't you guys come back after there is an actual ruling. You can gloat then if you are correct. But your incompetent politicians can't even sift through the data, still, after two years. If these people can get their crap together someday, IF, come back then. As for now you have nothing, your politicians aren't able to do their job, and I hope your burdensome regulation drives jobs from international companies far out of Europe.

Yes, it says that some people actually read what the commission documents say, from the 2014 document linked here http://ec.europa.eu/competition/state_aid/cases/253200/253200_1582634_87_2.pdf

In the light of the foregoing considerations, the Commission’s preliminary view is that the tax ruling of 1990 (effectively agreed in 1991) and of 2007 in favour of the Apple group constitute State aid according to Article 107(1) TFEU. The Commission has doubts about the compatibility of such State aid with the internal market. The Commission has therefore decided to initiate the procedure laid down in Article 108(2) TFEU with respect to the measures in question

And what the article 108.2 says?

2. If, after giving notice to the parties concerned to submit their comments, the Commission finds that aid granted by a State or through State resources is not compatible with the internal market having regard to Article 107, or that such aid is being misused, it shall decide that the State concerned shall abolish or alter such aid within a period of time to be determined by the Commission.

But perhaps you know more about what the case is that the EU themselves, and perhaps when they say that the case is about alleged illegal aids from a member state to a company they are not actually talking about alleged ilegal aids. Perhaps they have to ask you.

When you can put a source saying that it is not alleged illegal aid then you can talk about sarcasm or other things. But as it is clear that you're just talking nonsense you won't give us anything rational apart of your ignorant, fanatic and hatred stupidities.

And yes, it says something, it says that you're just wasting out time with your nonsense.

latifbp said:

gwydion said:

Ah, you're just talking nonsense, thanks for making it clear to not waste our time

It's called sarcasm. It's a way of making fun of somebody's stupid, repetitive, unchanging perspective.

The only stupid, repetitive and unchanging perspective is what you write.