gwydion

boltsfan17 said:

I don't see how Ireland is doing anything wrong. What Apple is doing is the so called structure called Double Irish. Double Irish can't be considered illegal state aid because it's available to all companies. 

digitalclips said:

gwydion said:

Then you'll be glad to know that this is not what this case is about

jmgregory1 said: Then you'll be glad to know that this is not what this case is about


This case is about allegedly ilegal state aids to some companies in Ireland, not about taxation in the EU

I'm genuinely curious, and I ask you as the blog's expert on this topic .... why on earth didn't Ireland's allegedly Illegal tax incentive scheme get immediately investigated and stopped by the EU?  Or didn't the EU know?  It all seems a complete f***k up and from where I sit, Apple is surely an innocent party here along with the other companies that accepted Ireland's deal.

jmgregory1 said:

Just like the BS spouted by US politicians, the European's want to talk about changing the rules of the game after the fact,

If you set up the rules to provide tax benefits to entice businesses to your country, you have no right to come back after the fact with outstretched hand, looking for "your" money. 

ewtheckman said:

gwydion said:

The EU case is not about loopholes so that quote is not only a key quote but it is a wrong thing to apply to this case

That is the allegation, not a proven fact. And like I just said to cnocbui, Tim Cook has emphatically and repeatedly stated that they do obey the laws.

mike1 said:

The key quote here is... "By funneling money through Irish subsidiaries and exploiting loopholes,..." If the issue is poorly written laws, then they need to go back and close the loopholes. You can't say oops, we really meant this. It is the duty of every taxpayer, personal and corporate, to minimize the taxes you pay by any legal means possible. If that means exploiting a mistake until it is corrected, so be it.