drewys808

fastasleep said:

rogifan_new said:

A two hour event and pricing was announced for only one thing...magazines. No details on this new gaming or TV subscription service. No info on pricing for content provider subscriptions signed up for within the TV app. Way more questions than answers at this point hence why the stock is down.

The stock fluctuates a few bucks every day, no sign today is any different. You’re saying there was a sell off today because they didn’t announce pricing? Good grief. The whole market is down. 

You’re both right. Today’s event is a solid look into the future... and those who are paying attention know this was a huge step in the right direction.  Apple Card/News/TV/Arcade are services that will move the stock.  But without pricing and detailed launch dates, it’s difficult to buy/sell shares at this quarter’s juncture.  By default, the market is dissapointed... so what.

what some may have missed is Apple’s commitment to a culture of positivity and inherent good.  This is a long term strategy that I believe is not only morally good, but will sustain financial prosperity as well.  Refer to the event’s focus on artists, storytelling, family-friendly options and Oprah.  The future is bright!

gutengel said:

$400 for a outdated design and 64GB of memory, old apple pencil same price as 2 years ago. It feels Apple is just lagging on strategy. At this point I see Apple selling the same 3 year old AirPods for the same dam price for the next 3 years and selling the 2G for an extra $30~$40. And then they wonder why ALL their hardware sales is down world wide... If Apple is serious about selling services, they should be a bit more generous about what they offer hardware wise to really attract new customers. It feels like Tim is afraid of cannibalising it's own lineup.  

What a rambling non-sequitur.

False.  Not all hardware sales are down.  It was really only iPhones that disappointed (and not even addressed in your post).

”they should be a bit more generous...”.  Yes, that’s exactly how all successful businesses are run.  /s

disneylandman said:

drewys808 said:

McJobs said:

Tens of millions of iPhone 5/5s/5c/SE users won't upgrade their phones until there's another compact iPhone in the lineup again.

Wrong... millions would at least upgrade to 6s and millions of others would upgrade to XR.  There isn’t much of a size increase.  Yes, there are some that want as small a form factor as possible, but it comes with a compromise in screen size as well... this is true for all brands of phones at this time.  

I think you mean the Xs.  The XR is the same footprint as the 6/7/8 Plus models.

... tho you may be thinking that one would prefer to upgrade from 5 to an XS.  I’m not arguing with that.  But I’m assuming these guys with 5/5SE iPhones aren’t willing to spend money for X or XS.  There are many ways to look at it.  But basically the X/XR/XS aren’t really thaaaaat much larger than the older phones.  

disneylandman said:

drewys808 said:

McJobs said:

Tens of millions of iPhone 5/5s/5c/SE users won't upgrade their phones until there's another compact iPhone in the lineup again.

Wrong... millions would at least upgrade to 6s and millions of others would upgrade to XR.  There isn’t much of a size increase.  Yes, there are some that want as small a form factor as possible, but it comes with a compromise in screen size as well... this is true for all brands of phones at this time.  

I think you mean the Xs.  The XR is the same footprint as the 6/7/8 Plus models.

No. 
Basically from smallest to largest:  6/7/8 then X/XS then XR. 

Picking nits, but there is also a super small differences as well for 6/7/8... 6 smallest then 7 then 8. 

Edit: sorry I missed that you said “plus”. You’re right.  But see my post below.  

tokyojimu said:

FlyDog said:

The replacement for a 6 is not an XS, it's an XR, which is around the same price as the 6 when it was released.

Except that a XR is way too big and heavy compared to my 6. I wanted to get one. I really did. But the bulk and mass were just way too much, not to mention having to enter DongleTown if I want to use my headphones. So I've got my 6 for yet another year and Apple lost out on a sale.

I think you’re in the extreme minority here.  The size difference is almost negligible, e.g. a 1/3” width difference.  Value of XR is well worth the upgrade.  I think it’s why it’s the best selling iPhone (of the current lineup).