saarek

avon b7 said:

saarek said:

crowley said:

saarek said:

williamlondon said:

saarek said:

“ just ask anyone in Britain now they've found out how much the EU used to do for that country.”

I’m British and I’ll bite. I don’t think anyone here really feels any different outside of the EU than we did in it.

Sure, you’ll find a few leftist bloggers and voters who will ring their hands and beat their chests, but an average person?


Perhaps you’d like to list the many wonderful things the EU did for us that made the £12B we sent them worth it…

Not true at all, get out of your little bubble and you'll see how wrong you are.

And yet you’ve listed no reasons as to how I’m wrong.

Leaving a union of any type is going to be bumpy, it’s like getting a divorce.

At least now we can make our own decisions. Does that mean that we will make some bad decisions? Absolutely. But at least they are ours to make.

Some in the U.K. were happy with the EU’s plan of ever closer union and natural erosion of the member states identity, sovereignty and unique characteristics. The majority were not.

I’m in the camp that voted to leave, obviously, but I’m also always happy to talk to those that voted remain.

I'm really enjoying the freedom that the current UK government are enjoying in trashing the economy.  Self immolation is a wonderful expression of uniqueness.

You seem to be under the strange impression that by being members of the EU our current government, which is crap, putting it lightly, would be any better.

Brexit is not the cause of any of the current governmental missteps. What we have is a tired government that’s reached the end of the road, just like the Labour Government before it. These things seem to go in cycles.

I think the government would be far better prepared for economic turbulence within the EU. 

As was made clear from day one, you can't be better off out of the bloc than within it. Although I don't live in the UK, it certainly looks like the pain of being out is definitely being felt across the nation.

All my family, bar one, voted for Brexit. Quite why I'll never know. All my family bar one regrets voting leave. 

Where are the positives of Brexit? 

The EU has its own problems. The Germans are not going to want to bail out the Italians. Massive debts are being added to the member states which mean net contributors have to sort out their own problems along with those in trouble adding to their own problems. The Euro can be a benefit, it can also act like a noose around your neck.

There are pros and cons to being in the EU. It’s not all wonderful, just as it’s not all bad.

Brexit has only just happened and was immediately followed by Covid which was then immediately followed by Putin and his lunatic war.

It’s obviously going to take time for any benefits to run their way through. Most of the laws are still the same,  not much has changed yet and so yes, there is little benefit received at this point. In another 10 years, if nothing good has come from it people can call it a failure at that point.

it’s like a fat person starting the C25K programme and saying after week two “hey, where are the benefits? I’m still fat and still can’t run 5K!!” It’s going to take time.

Just imagine what their sales would be like if they cut some of their profit and went all in on growth.

“ just ask anyone in Britain now they've found out how much the EU used to do for that country.”

It’s not a Samsung battery in there is it?

I’d be happy with Apple keeping Lightning if only they’d bother to update it and keep it current.

The transfer speeds on it are really slow now.