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tmay said:tmay said:DanielEran said:It would be impossible to cobble a similar platform out of the terrible speakers built into existing Echo and Dot appliances, and neither Amazon, Google, Samsung, Spotify or other speaker makers really have to clout to produce such a sophisticated, premium speaker and sell it to a critical mass of users globally.
Based in many reviews, the HomePod sound quality is very similar to the Google Home Max, and I wouldn't consider neither of them premium speakers. And to say that Samsung is not capable of doing sophisticated premium speaker is non sense. They own Harman Audio, which includes companies like Harman-Kardon, AKG, Infinity and Revel, among others. Those companies have years of experience in the audio market. We'll have to see the results of the final product, but I wouldn't count them out.
Samsung developed a Gear watch platform, Tizen, Galaxy Player, all manner of tablets, and no doubt it can make a speaker. But to create an audio platform that matters, it would need to learn how to sell those products to people who would pay any money for them.
Google hardware is a bullshit exercise in Verge fapping and nobody buys any of it in commercially relevant volumes. It doesn't matter that some bloggers can't tell the difference between a basic speaker and HomePod. If those reviews mattered Google would be a significant hardware seller rather than a source of billowing hot bullshit.
Since you haven't listened to the speakers, and Daniel has, maybe you really don't know if the HomePod is a "sophisticated, premium speaker", but the HomePod is certainly an order of magnitude more "sophisticated" in its audio design than any other company's product in the smart speaker space, and likely more sophisticated that many of the AudioPhile speakers that you are referencing that are quite a bit more expensive.
Care to explain how important is the "sophisticated" audio design in the HomePod when the results, based in the AppleInsider comparison with the Home Max, is that "there isn't enough of a difference between the two to justify buying one or the other for sound quality reasons alone."? And that's the same feedback I had read in many side-to-side comparisons. BTW, when you mention audiophile speakers in your post, do you really think that the HomePod it's at that level of sound quality?
In the meantime, I'm not convinced that those side by side tests are all that reliable, so I will withhold judgement, something that you obviously aren't inclined to do.
Why do you think side-by-side tests are unreliable? All the "sophisticated" was design to make HomePod sound good on any place. The HomePod was suppose to beat other speakers in all environments, but instead comparisons showed that it sounds similar to the competition. BTW, I'm not saying that the HomePod is a bad speaker, but it looks like it isn't better than the competition, even with all the technology detailed in the article.
I'm going to reiterate what Strange Days said previously on this topic, you stating that the comparisons showed Homepod was not better but merely similar to the competition, this is not what I read either. Sure, some reviews had them on par, but others said the Homepod was better. Not for overall volume/bass, but for distortion free reproduction at all volumes, much larger immersive sound stage, beam forming tech, and more separation between individual instruments/sounds. It was rated as much better in these regards in pretty much every comparison I read.