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Apple acknowledges 'Error 53' glitch, says it's part of Touch ID security [u]
tenly said:I don't have the time or energy to reply to all of you individually - so this comment is directed to all of those who have blindly sided with Apple's approach of bricking the phone in response to this type of "tampering".
First of all - you don't even know for sure whether bricking the phone in these circumstances are what Apple intended to do. By calling it a "glitch", they are acknowledging that it is in fact NOT working exactly as intended.
As many of the smarter forum members have opined, there are a number of responses that could have been applied in this situation that are less severe YET STILL 100% SECURE! But since you don't understand how any of this stuff actually works - or what needs to be protected - you blindly over react. You're the same people that welcome "perceived security" over "real security" and probably think that all of the security measures in place at the airport actually make your flights more secure - even though they've been proven time and time again to be a waste of time and money whose ONLY value is to provide the PERCEPTION of security!
It's people like you - people that welcome extreme over reactions to perceived threats (real or not) that are going to be responsible for giving away ALL of our privacy and freedoms in the not so distant future.
Should Apple protect my data? Yes! Absolutely! Should they do so by bricking my device? ONLY IF NECESSARY!!! And in this case - ITS NOT!!! There are several levels of response/reaction that could be applied here that would protect your data while still allowing you to use your device! If you lack the intelligence to know what those responses should be - just shut the hell up - or go ahead and demand a solution that protects your data APPROPRIATELY. Don't pretend you know what the solution is and demand specific things when it's so very obvious you are responding solely out of fear and ignorance and that you don't have a clue what *should* be done.
Still siding with Apple here.
Additionally, I've upped my support for them to 103%.
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Apple acknowledges 'Error 53' glitch, says it's part of Touch ID security [u]
Real security should be real security regardless of corner cases of inconvenience.
Siding with Apple on this 100%.
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Google surpasses Apple as world's most valuable company
I have no reason NOT to be a Tim Cook Koolaid drinker. He's a talented CEO. In addition and more importantly, Jony Ive works with Tim Cook, including a first-class team. I'm all for that flavour of Koolaid.sog35 said:
Typical Tim Cook koolaid drinker. The type of person who is satisified as long as Cook says only what he's legally bound to say. Guess what? That does not cut in in the investment community.quadra 610 said:
You're still crying about your shares. And you're pissed that Cook didn't say more, for *your* benefit, beyond what he's legally bound to say. There's a limit to what shareholders are entitled to. You're blaming Apple for your bad decisions.
Additionally, expecting Apple to innovate *at the pace you expect them to* is unreasonable. Further, not every product will get an update exactly when you'd like. The Mini? You can't be serious.
Your problem is with SEC rules for financial/outlook disclosure, not with Apple. Tim Cook's first responsibility is to his company's revenue and profit, via pleasing the consumer, and not to line your pockets.
iPhone growth was unprecedented all this time, and now Apple lowered their outlook, within the rules. You're upset not over products, not over company performance, but because Cook didn't inform you of the obvious in a timeframe you would have liked, nor did he provide you with information on the Next Big Thing... as if you have a right to that information!
You're a clueless investor, and your thinking is irrational, not to mention incredibly arrogant.
Take your grievances to the SEC, or apply to the courts.
Look, I understand you're upset. I wouldn't be pleased with losing money on an investment either. But this really doesn't look anything like a reflection of any wrongdoing or lack of innovation on Apple's part.
Apple keeps hitting new highs – record profits, record sales in all the right areas. They keep perfecting and iterating on the Apple ecosystem, whether in big steps or small steps (they've been doing both), and the financial rug is pulled from beneath them. Cook lowers the outlook a bit (which at some point was expected), and the market punishes Apple. You expect him to give you strategic information before (and more than) he's required by law, and then *you* punish Apple even further.
Does the market in this case make any sense? Everyone who invests in Apple KNOWS (or at least is reasonably expected to) that the company plays its cards very close to its chest, and ALWAYS has. They feel it is necessary. Their success story for well over a decade PROVES that it's necessary. You know the caveats with Apple when it comes to expecting disclosure that is over and above what the law requires.
I'm not looking to give you a hard time over this, but let's be reasonable.
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Google surpasses Apple as world's most valuable company
sog35 said:
IMO, the stock will see 80's maybe even 70's if we hit recession. I'm not going to risk additional capital on a company that has such a low understanding on how to communicate its vision to investors.quadra 610 said:
Your financial loss (or imminent) regarding Apple has nothing to do with Apple's actual success. Irrational market forces got the better of your shares. These forces aren't today a reflection of actual success, innovation, or any other slogan currently in vogue, no matter what they happened to reflect, for instance, ten years ago.
This is not ultimately Cook's problem. And it's in the *making* of it to *be* his problem that will cause Apple to lose its way.
I'm sorry about your shares, but you needn't be as irrational as the present market forces, over which, demonstrably, Appls has next to no control.
The best thing for Apple right now is to simply stay the course, allow Ive and co. to do what they do best, and keep nailing the basics.
The market is not irrational. Apple deserves to be punished. Tim Cook was spewing iPhone growth all last year. Even up to Oct he kept saying iPhones would grow, grow, grow. Now we know the truth. iPhone will shrink about 5% in the first 2 quarters of FY2016. No warning at all from Tim. Then he has the balls to blame it all on currency and China. Get real. Currency and China has been going on for MONTHS.
Basically the market can't believe Tim anymore. He lied to investors in October. He failed to warn investors in December that China was weakening. He also failed to warn that America iPhone units was weak too. He can't use the China/Currency excuse on 4% lower units in America.
It is literally impossible for iPhone to continue to grow forever. Eventually growth will stop. And thus far Tim Cook has done NOTHING to help investors see what the next big thing will be. What will be the next revenue stream to make up for iPhone stagnation.
1. iPad has shrunk 8 quarters in a row. Yet Cook still is doing nothing to try to increase sales. The past 2 years he has done crap updates to the Mini. Last year we didn't even see an update for the Air. And on the Apps side the ipad remains just a large screen iPhone at this point.
2. Mac. Cook continues to try to maximize every single cent of profit. The base price iMac and MacMini are ridiculously weak machines. They make it almost impossible to upgrade. Cook should be using the large iPhone install base to increase Mac sales. But instead all he cares about is nickel and diming.
3. Watch. The one device that is growing really fast. Yet Cook refuses to disclose unit numbers. I mean WTF.
You're still crying about your shares. And you're pissed that Cook didn't say more, for *your* benefit, beyond what he's legally bound to say. There's a limit to what shareholders are entitled to. You're blaming Apple for your bad decisions.
Additionally, expecting Apple to innovate *at the pace you expect them to* is unreasonable. Further, not every product will get an update exactly when you'd like. The Mini? You can't be serious.
Your problem is with SEC rules for financial/outlook disclosure, not with Apple. Tim Cook's first responsibility is to his company's revenue and profit, via pleasing the consumer, and not to line your pockets.
iPhone growth was unprecedented all this time, and now Apple lowered their outlook, within the rules. You're upset not over products, not over company performance, but because Cook didn't inform you of the obvious in a timeframe you would have liked, nor did he provide you with information on the Next Big Thing... as if you have a right to that information!
You're a clueless investor, and your thinking is irrational, not to mention incredibly arrogant.
Take your grievances to the SEC, or apply to the courts.
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Google surpasses Apple as world's most valuable company
I really have to go with MDN's take on this:MacDailyNews Take: Again, while “most valuable company” is a nice title to have, “maker of the best products and services” is really Apple’s goal, not to have the higher result of shares outstanding multiplied by share price.
If losing this symbolic crown – to Google, no less – makes Apple redouble their efforts to delight customers with excellence, we welcome the coronation wholeheartedly.
