kiltedgreen

saarek said:

Appleish said:

From the country that instituted Brexit against popular opinion and had an unelected leader that was only in office for a few weeks, who destroyed hundreds of billions of pounds from their economy.

Either you’re a revisionist or you simple don’t understand how referendums work.

The vote for Brexit was clear, the majority of the population of the United Kingdom voted for it to happen (17.4M to leave vs 16.1M to remain).

Yes, Scotland and, to a lesser degree Northern Ireland, voted to remain. However even nearly 40% of the Scots voted to leave which is a fact that the SNP never recognises as they pretend that all of Scotland voted to remain in the EU.

Was it the right decision? Well, I don’t think we will truly know that for at least another 10 years. None of the  prophetic doom and gloom scenarios ever got close to materialising and the country was always going to be worse off during the initial divorce stage.

Either way the result of the decision is largely irrelevant, what is relevant is that a democratic vote was taken and was then acted upon (albeit poorly).

The vote for Brexit was so clear that Leave said before the referendum that if it was that close against them they would ask for a 2nd vote.

And no need to wait 10 years to truly find out; JRM closed shop on the “Brexit benefits” department after how long(?) as he found none at all. There are no benefits to Brexit that benefit the citizenry and there never will be - it’s just allowed the current incumbents of Number 10 to become even more crazed as exemplified by this encryption proposal. They lost touch with decency and common sense years back.

twolf2919 said:

graphicsguy said:

The more I think about and hear about the Vision Pro, the more I'm convinced it's going to be another massive hit. I was thinking about how back in 1994 when I bought a lowly Powerbook 520 for $2250. That's about $5K today. And I was just a 25 year old wanting this cool new thing -- a laptop. And I was just getting by waiting tables at the time, so that was a huge % of my money going to that purchase. It's laughable how much more the VP will be able to do for the money. They'll have no trouble selling them. SionPro

I don't see the analogy.  In 1994, when you spent the equivalent of $5k today, you purchased something that immediately made your day-to-day life more productive by letting you do word processing, spreadsheets, gaming, maybe even surf the nascent World Wide Web.  The Vision Pro doesn't do that.  Yes, it'll make some narrow set of activities more pleasurable - e.g. having a more immersive movie experience - but in no way will it make your day-to-day life more productive.  At least not initially.

I have never bought a new car in my life and I’ve owned about 9. My last was the most expensive ever at £1,200 or so. I cannot understand why a) So many people buy new cars (2nd hand are so plentiful and SO much cheaper) b) How so many people can afford to buy new cars (I mean a perfectly average car - Ford Focus, say - costs £23,000! Yep, £23,000! I mean I could buy my current 2nd hand car for £1200, as I did, and still be able to afford about 7 pairs of VisionPro headsets with the change) and c) Why would people buy a top end Mercedes A-class at about £60,000? It won’t get them to work or shops much quicker than a Ford Focus that can break the speed limit for less than half the price.

This continual analysis of the pricing of the Vision Pro and deciding that few will buy it at that price shows that Apple understands their customers way better than you do. Why is “productivity” the deciding factor for purchasing? Why not an experience that nobody else can offer? Why not your own superb quality huge private cinema screen when travelling on the train? Why not travelling around an amazing landscape or outer space at home? Why not some amazing game that is like nothing else? Why is “productivity” the litmus test? Are all those people buying maxed-out, neon-lit, overclocked, 6 fan gaming PCs trying to be more “productive”?

We have a 27” monitor which is connected to our Apple TV - that is it. Some people, though prefer to pay a lot more money for a 50” monitor for £650 or so. It’s the same picture and the sound is no better than on our 27” screen but people are buying them in droves. People see different value in different things. I see a 50” screen as a waste of hundreds of pounds. I’ve bought a bottle of wine, decades back, that cost £125 whereas most people consider spending more than about £6 to be a waste of money.

I think we will all find out next year that Apple know exactly what they are doing.

Pundits are always reporting that Apple’s new XXX is having supply problems, manufacturing problems and will be delayed. Some times to the point that rumoured delivery dates for rumoured products are delayed, which is quite an achievement.

I would have thought that Apple would not have just rushed into an estimate of how many Vision Pro headsets they could produce each year. They would have asked the display manufacturers for their productions rate, with backup data. We will see when we get to next year.

I can’t believe that people are prepared to pay more than £2-3k for a car.

Can you believe that SME charge £10,000 for a turntable? To play vinyl records. I mean, come on. You can buy a turntable that plays at the right speed for about £100 or less.

Why buy an iPhone Pro Max for £1800 when you can get a Samsung top end phone for about a quarter of the price. Who are they kidding?

A Ferrari for £270,000? They won’t sell many of those. It won’t really go much quicker from London to Edinburgh that my 10 year old VW Golf so what exactly is the point?

Those VisionPro headsets - seen it all before, move along, nothing to see. And at $3500 - they will pull it a year after launch with a fraction of the expected sales. You just mark my words. Only an idiot would pay that much for something that you can pretty much already buy at a fraction of the price.

And no keyboard either! Some ‘spatial computer’.

They really missed a trick not calling it EyeID or IID. Much more fun, easier to say and less scientific sounding.