kiltedgreen

Peza said:

kiltedgreen said:

Peza said:

If the road this ends up going down means the same apps on a Mac are the same apps on an iPad, then surely Apples PC market share is going to shrink even further, everyone will just buy a much cheaper iPad. 

I’m not questioning Apples silicone prowess here, I’m questioning if developers will follow them down the path. 

That isn’t how apps are developed. Apple are not changing the silicon so they can write the same apps for both, as was explained in the Keynote. They are doing it for a lot of other reasons. Thinner laptops being one I’d imagine!

Apple already have Safari, Keynote, Photos, Mail, Maps, etc, etc, etc running on both platforms. They are not the same apps and putting the same processors in each won’t change that at all.

It will take effort, money and resources for a developer to make their programme that runs on X86 PCs also run on Mac OS Apple Silicone machines, and when Apple has a single digit market share, how many are going to do that? Even more so if they have an iOS app I think most will just let that be the programme for the new Macs instead, better value for the company and those share holders, Mac users get a lesser experience though. 

A lot of apps will simply need to be recompiled. Some will need more. Almost all apps are written for an OS, not a chip. That’s why we have compilers - they take the C, C++, Swift code or whatever and turn it into code that targets a particular processor. Unless you do bit manipulation and some other clever stuff I’ve had no experience off, the processor in the computer is irrelevant when writing an app.

the Swift code I write is the same right now whether it’s designed to run on a Mac or iPadOS- the Swift language that is, not the libraries which ARE different.

for example. Download Xcode for your Mac and if you have an iPad, Swift playgrounds for iPadOS. Write swift code to create variables, functions, structs and more in a Swift playground on the Mac. Run it and see the result. Select your Swift code’s text and copy it into the playground on your iPad. Run it. It will do exactly the same thing. Two different OSs, one Intel, one A series. You didn’t write for a processor, you wrote Swift. That’s how it goes.

i have a Mac App on the Mac App Store. When Big Sur is released I will just launch it in Xcode, Build, archive, upload to the App Store and bingo, I will have an app that runs on an A series chip. That, for many developers, is all that is needed.

Peza said:

If the road this ends up going down means the same apps on a Mac are the same apps on an iPad, then surely Apples PC market share is going to shrink even further, everyone will just buy a much cheaper iPad. 

I’m not questioning Apples silicone prowess here, I’m questioning if developers will follow them down the path. 

That isn’t how apps are developed. Apple are not changing the silicon so they can write the same apps for both, as was explained in the Keynote. They are doing it for a lot of other reasons. Thinner laptops being one I’d imagine!

Apple already have Safari, Keynote, Photos, Mail, Maps, etc, etc, etc running on both platforms. They are not the same apps and putting the same processors in each won’t change that at all.

apple1991 said:

Apple Silicon = touch based Macs? 

Nope.

Everything darkpaw said is right on the money. Our government here in the UK make me want to scream - and not in a good way. Their app is going nowhere near my devices.

bitsandbytes said:

commentzilla said:

bitsandbytes said:

Any app made in a day could have been made in Excel, PowerPoint, or HTML.

Nonsense.

Their app replaced a piece of paper

THEIR app