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  • Samsung chief's arrest sought in South Korean corruption scandal

    sog35 said:
    revenant said:
    sog35 said:
    IMO, Samsung wants to get rid of this guy.

    If Samsung wants him to stay these charges would never come about.
    based on what?

    charges were brought against his father twice. he stayed- both times; these charges are the government's way of showing the people that it is working for the will of the people just like with his father. you have no idea how things have worked or are changing here. there is more than a good chance he will face some sort of sentencing, but also likely he will get off. the Korean people are done with chaebols and most business are as well, but you do not suddenly toss a buddhist-melded-confuciansist mindset into the garbage that fast. culture changes slower than the scales of economy. the people's voice is getting louder and louder, everyone is waiting for a reckoning.
    give me a break. 

    Samsung still is 40% of the entire Korean economy.  If Samsung wants this guy to go free, he will.

    The former Samsung CEO is a two time convicted felon. But he didn't do a second of jail time because the President of Korea pardoned him twice. 

    So stop with the BS that the people have more power. They don't. Samsung will get what Samsung wants. If this guy goes to prison, its because Samsung wanted it.
    You just said what I did- the CEO was pardoned. But in your mind Samsung is currently gunning for this guy because charges brought against him ... just like his father. But your crystal ball shows all, I guess. 

    It is funny how you know Korean life and politics so well from a few ai posts. 

    People do have power. Things are slowly changing and as an outsider you do not have a clue. Furthermore, you said Samsung was 30% of the Korean economy just days ago, now Samsung is a whopping 40%. Take your crystal ball back in, it is clearly faulty like most of your misinformation spreading posts. 
    watto_cobraaknabi
  • Samsung chief's arrest sought in South Korean corruption scandal

    sog35 said:
    IMO, Samsung wants to get rid of this guy.

    If Samsung wants him to stay these charges would never come about.
    based on what?

    charges were brought against his father twice. he stayed- both times; these charges are the government's way of showing the people that it is working for the will of the people just like with his father. you have no idea how things have worked or are changing here. there is more than a good chance he will face some sort of sentencing, but also likely he will get off. the Korean people are done with chaebols and most business are as well, but you do not suddenly toss a buddhist-melded-confuciansist mindset into the garbage that fast. culture changes slower than the scales of economy. the people's voice is getting louder and louder, everyone is waiting for a reckoning.
    jbdragon
  • Samsung vice chairman a suspect in South Korean bribery probe

    tylerd said:
    gatorguy said:
    sog35 said:
    nothing will come of this.

    lets face it.  30% of the Korean economy is Samsung. Unless Samsung wants this guy in jail, he ain't going to jail.

    even if he's found guility, the Korean president will simply pardon him
    Of course something will come of it if he's guilty. You've apparently not been following recent stories about Korean government and the current recently-impeached President selling influence in her administration. It's a big deal. Read the story.
    http://www.reuters.com/article/us-southkorea-politics-samsung-group-idUSKBN14V0G6
    Hi @gatorguy ;; - As @Rayz2016 stated, South Korea is quick to pardon the guilty chaobol (family owned conglomerates) in Korea. The fact that Park is now also being persecuted probably won't change things much. Unfortunately, it is known that these companies routinely bribe politicians and judges. 

    Here is an example of a chaebol leader getting off in the interest of "revitalizing the economy", but there are many other cases:

    http://www.straitstimes.com/asia/east-asia/park-grants-pardon-to-chaebol-chief

    And don't forget about Lee Kun-hee of Samsung (the father of the aforementioned). Here's the tl;dr from the WP article below:

    "That sentiment has intensified in recent years, a period during which Samsung has obstructed price-fixing investigations — drawing only minor fines — and seen its chairman indicted for financial crimes, only to receive a presidential pardon “in the national interest,” as a government spokesman put it."

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/in-s-korea-the-republic-of-samsung/2012/12/09/71215420-3de1-11e2-bca3-aadc9b7e29c5_story.html

    I used to live there, so I have a lot of exposure with the Koreans. The corruption is very overt.

    Side note: They LOVE Apple there. That store is going to be HUGE
    You are right, it is overt over here. But it is been a part of the growing unrest among the people. President Park, unless congress does not uphold the impeachment, cannot pardon. And after the mass demonstrations proving public unrest it is doubtful anyone will get off easily. public outcry and unrest over the chaebol and the wealthy is peaking. Things are changing over here. 
    badmonk
  • Samsung vice chairman a suspect in South Korean bribery probe

    sog35 said:
    nothing will come of this.

    lets face it.  30% of the Korean economy is Samsung. Unless Samsung wants this guy in jail, he ain't going to jail.

    even if he's found guility, the Korean president will simply pardon him
    She was impeached and is now powerless. Unless congress does not hold to the impeachment findings she has no power with which to pardon him. 
    badmonk
  • Samsung vice chairman a suspect in South Korean bribery probe

    lkrupp said:
    So what? We’ll never see even a mention of this in the mainstream media.
    Is BBC mainstream? 
    South Korea scandal: Samsung chief Lee Jae-yong a suspect
    badmonk